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what's up welcome back to the Huddle your weekly Playbook where we help you gain forward progress in your flooring

career we are here to help you win to all of our new viewers welcome to the

team what's up fellas how's it going sorry we're late uh audience uh we had a

little technical difficulty so um but we got it we got it we're here on a cold

Bliss blistery uh Winter's day I would love it if anybody on would uh just

comment with what degree and where you're at because um we got 14 up here

in Kansas City and it feels like it's like seven well seven below it was

literally eight below here we don't get below we get cold in Kansas but below

zero four degrees and uh our low is Nega five yes Roland I am cold because I just

got back from lunch and it is

like 14 degrees and like I said it is almost

um with the wind chill I think it's saying like it feels like negative4 or something crazy anyway I think it is ne4

that's how cold it is it's cold yeah yeah I I actually plugged my

truck in last night to make sure that uh we're going to be good this in the morning good call well you're is it a

diesel yeah well you do that every time it's

like down in the below 20 you do that below 20 I don't know what um what our

guys do but they certainly um plug it in plug in our trucks I think it's probably

any time it's under freezing but anyway today is we are going to need

some audience participation uh for this to last an

hour but it's always a fun topic uh

you yeah I I don't it's fun now it's fun to talk about it now it wasn't fun back

on in the day right yeah yeah it wasn't fun when these things happened but you know your first time floring failed

um you know we'll go a little bit farther and um discuss like how to avoid

them too or you know what we learned from them

but it's GNA take participation because I've only made one mistake and I

think Daniel only made one Jose's only made one so what's up I think we got

like has at home sick right now too I think based on his uh post earlier hey

Jorge what how cold is it there dude I know it's always warm there but I heard

uh from Ben who many of you know with go Carrera um and he's been on the podcast

uh several times but he said that uh he was showing me pictures of family

members down in Houston that uh got four inches of snow

so I'm sure it ain't as warm as it usually is for you or he it's not might

as well just shut the whole Community down at that point when it's I think the whole city uh from what

Ben said the whole city is shut down like they just stayed home right like they don't have the

roads are different the tires are different and I never would have thought about that but when we were in Oklahoma

they shut down because of like two hours of freezing rain and we were down there with

Michigan tires and just like what you guys like what's

wrong all right we got some 27s to 40 degrees now okay well you're

whooping our ass it's you're three times as warm as we

are well we're GNA give it a second let some some audience um catch up with us

here and uh hopefully we'll be getting some

participation on this topic but when you think about let's let's start with this

when you think about floring all right uh when you think

about floring Fels um I what always comes to my mind

is things that go wrong but I'm not talking about um

not like you know I didn't prep the floor or something like that these are things that you you you maybe did early

on that uh caused you some issues so obviously a little bit um do a

temperature check here degrees wind till

five where are you at Holy Moly Maryland

yep oh yeah yeah well that checks

out but uh I was I was kidding when I said I've

only made one flooring fell I've made two and multiple more than that actually but

one that I was telling you guys I'll save but I do have another did you guys ever use um Dependable gypson patch back

in the are you old enough no like I think we're old enough to have used it but smart enough to have never used it

okay well you got me on the second Point Square buckets is it coming the square buckets went you could get it in square

buckets or bags yeah that's now I was an hourly employee so it wasn't like I was

trying to save money I just used what the company gave me to use I didn't go out and try to you know save a few bucks

on a bag of patch but we used I skim coded

I'm talking so there's a reason you're supposed to check your substrate let me

preempt this with check your subrate make sure that there's no oil it's free of oil and paint and these types of

things I did none of that first off and secondly I skim coded uh an entire

hallway and I even built it up real nice in a few areas maybe half inch with some

Dependable gypson base patch and

uh can anybody just guess what happened when I glued down my uh tried to glue

down my carpet it wase dude I had bubbles everywhere and I

could and it was like a 30 foot shot by about eight and a half nine foot wide and the entire thing came up well

then you Tred to spread glue right over the top of it and there was like a hydraulic oil or something in the it was

a it was a nightmare I couldn't I had to throw throw away I got in big trouble because I had to throw away the the

whole drop we couldn't get the the gypson by the way sticks to carpet glue

really well and it was stuck to the back of the carpet had no chance um what does

he say he say used it with milk it worked great I don't think he needs real milk

also he says it was the only thing LS and I'm an 80s baby so that's before my

time that is uh before your time but I would say

um I would say that we didn't I didn't mix it with latex either is that a thing

gypson with latex it makes it more more pliable I

haven't used it uh well since I opened my company we

we never used it it's always been cement Portland based product but anyway it was it was quite the

Nightmare how to avoid that is two things the substrate was contaminated

with something I think it was like hydraulic uh fluid or something like that they had to come in and clean up

the whole thing and secondly don't in my opinion not only in my opinion I could

show you a picture of a job that I went on uh just recently uh this over the

weekend and was uh helping the crew to get some stuff out and I I should

probably uh put this in for like worse sub worse demo of the year but it has as

you can see a nice layer of gypsum right on top of layer number

three that's four layers of vinyl and a layer of carpet over the top so that's

not a flooring fell we we knocked it out the park but it was a pain in the ass

pardon the French hey Danny where are you at brother it's so cold give me your location and temperature there

okay so uh we we've lost Daniel he's back

again I forgot to put it on do not disturb again and I got a phone call so we're back

sweet all right so chime in comment with your flooring fails and uh let's let us

make fun of you let us make fun of us too we do that really

well I did learn so like I guess one of the first experiences I had I think you need to turn your gain up it's really

hard to hear is it really that low yeah all right when you yelled at for it

being too much n better no yeah a little

bit boom boom boom that's come on

Daniel all right so my man Danny he did a a project my brother a while ago and

we prepped everything kind of similar to what you did we prepped everything you know we didn't really grind anything

there was a bunch of old adhesive or what we thought was adhesive um and uh

let's just call it contaminants on the floor so we tried to skim over it with ARX um then we started getting ready to

install and everything started popping up we didn't know what was going on but that's when we found out that that was

an inside chicken Coupe and the chicken poop itself and what they fed it

introduced a bunch of contaminants to the concrete the concrete absorbed it and when we tried to encapsulate it

brought everything back up and we could no longer do anything to that floor um

so of course that's rx's fault right I mean yeah 100% yeah

100% garbage garbage Dependable back just kidding our Dex we love you that

was a joke well the same thing like before I think uh this guy was on a job

site and he didn't have any water or something and mixed it with like a Mountain Dew or a Gatorade or something

and then come to find out when we're going through classes later that you don't want to mix sugar in with that

because that don't mix either so and the crazy thing is is you still see people on Facebook doing that like I don't have

anything I'm gonna mix this with my Coke real quick are you serious yeah there's and

they post it like it's it's the cool thing to do to like be proud of

yeah that's so silly desperate times the about the craziest I've gotten with

patch is you know heating up the water a little bit to make her kick off a little faster but oh yeah

yeah I think that that's a I don't want to say common practice

but little I have used that many times in the

past on some deeper stuff this is what your whole th this is

our life in flooring well guys just got a call installers are 9 foot short on

black base got to run and put it in it's at the Eagles Club and they got to put

the furniture back at 6 PM not salesperson

fail got those yeah it's just so funny to me like in

our that's like the epitome of our business you're just a little short on something or you gota and it's got to be

done that's the uh that's the world of flooring because we are We Are The Last

of the Mohicans in a job site typically it's moving right in behind us Danny says sometimes scarifying and primer

just aren't enough but there's always a way but when you don't know that way that's when you run into stuff because I

ran into one with that too where um we put a bunch of I mean we ground it right

and put a bunch of self leveler down and everything looked great like a week later they were like hey all that patch

is popping go back and uh come to find out like it was an a vestibule and it

just had the the grate there before so all that salt was just sitting there for years and just absorbed into that

concrete and it it was just a bond breaker wow yeah the I I would think

that the that high of alkalinity you talk about it yeah yeah I would have

broken that bond for sure see you Rin you go have fun installing your nine foot of Base see you

Rin okay polls are open how long is it going to take Ron to toss up nine feet of black vinyl

base it's probably already done it's already done Danny I did Prime first but

it was uh not a primer that that was was an epoxy primer is

probably case yeah it it just it did

nothing like you said that's a lot of alkalinity and that's mean straight salt

and it you have no idea how deep it went I got a question does

anybody well first off does does anybody put their do does

anybody use flammable contact cement when you're putting on carpet broadloom

on stairs there's nonflammable contact cement there is now yeah yeah there's

nonflammable I don't trust it that's what don't

either parabon does have one but good old what is it 5025 or whatever

the the uh red can parabon that's what I use

so one time oh it's 40 minutes away it'll take him a minute so it'll take

him 50 minutes it's gonna take him 42 minutes to get this

done so that's all I ever used when I was installing broadloom um

is uh contact cement flammable contact cement you know roll the back roll your

stairs and i' do on a 4 foot set of stairs you know i' I'd cut up for 10 and I'd

waterf them up the stairs and

uh they jumbo didn't know they had

nonflammable um so anyway I've got this I'm starting and what ends up happening is

you know I have that whole carpet draped over me so I was effectively in a flammable contact cement tent for about

an hour I didn't even realize how goofy I had gotten until I got all those the

first 10 uh stairs done but that is probably one if you want to stay smart

and not kill every brain cell that you should avoid doing so that's maybe one of my

ultimate fails was I was high as a kite for a good hour or so after that I

couldn't even and I was sick to my stomach I thought I was gonna puke on the job site it doesn't

make I got the munchies from from contact yeah and I did that when I was

12 years old contacting a bunch of stuff for this guy right here and then he got mad at me because I got sick yeah yeah

actually that was one of the first jobs he ever helped out with um out in Holland and uh yeah he's right I put him

on on contacting the steps and this guy's like I don't feel good and me being the awesome big brother I am just

pretty much told him that he was a little [ __ ] and blah blah blah or yeah that word sorry

guys and then and then didn't realize there was no ventilation yeah yeah I got

a brother in uh no ventilation sorry uh I seen jge

did the same thing s good yeah no ventilation and pretty much I got my brother highend chemicals at 12 years

old y Nate just did a bunch with some nonflammable too I seen the pictures

where he uh used the cool glide on the

seams yeah that's funny yeah it was not good Jorge and I don't know where you

got how you could possibly get the uh get hungry from it

but so he says that someone that he knows we're we're going to holde head

real quick uh someone that he knows installed some glue down plank in Zer degree weather it's acclimated inside

but how can you acclimate it and yeah I mean unless inside was like

the HVAC was on then it's it's fine the material flexed and gaap well I think uh

when when it's cold and then you install it it's going to end up pushing up on each other expanding

yeah that's a I can't imagine that that turned out good no not unless it stayed

there but surely they heated it up a minute you know put it back to normal

temperature okay Lanny says I had a project not pass inspection it was glued down broadland carpet and out of the

specs for Boeing I was it was on a weekend and I could not get in touch with the rep or

the salesman that was on vacation them damn salesman and vacation when you need

them the most and the commercial space had to be back uh in use on Monday I

crab stretch it as far as I could but it was on gypsum and it didn't hold very

well yep I could see that we ended up sending another guy out there to seam and stretch the centers cost me a few

bucks good learning experience learning experience though yeah I I I don't know

how you would um do that without cooling seams and prepping the gypsum

and priming it and prepping it the problem is gypsum you put a lot of glue on that

even if you prime it and like we've had it where gu skim

Cod it and they prime it and skim coat it and then you put down um if you have

like the thin set that they used in this very first unit it was more of a prepping thing uh

not necessarily skim coating but they had to prime it to be able to get the all these uh belly sways that were in

the Gip Creed out but point being when they mix their thin set and

they mix it really runny oh yeah all that moisture went in there and it it

released that and I was like dude that's going to happen every time even if you prime it and kind of do it mostly right

um You can get away with a lot but you know you don't want to over uh over wet in your then it would probably wouldn't

have held anyway at the end of the day so good early catch checking the

paracity after that after you prime it that first time too to make sure that it's not going to you know super soak up

some of that moisture yep but yeah I think a lot of these

these uh fails are just learning experiences like we're talking about contact and before we got on here that's

what I said you know I'm still in high school working at a high school during

the summertime was carrying a gallon of contact just from one end of the school

to the other in one of the rooms that we just installed slipped out of my hand

spilled everywhere I'm trying to clean it up and repair it before anyone comes

in and like like just when you think that you're in the clear like all right I got I got the the carpet there and it

was tandis so I'm just going to double cut it right as soon as I go to start double cutting it guess who just walks

in catches me like I was almost done almost there like the hell's going

on would you end up doing he he ended up showing me exactly how it should be done instead of me

messing it up even more yeah they because I didn't mess up right

that's how I learned too so yeah he said that he did prime it but he

didn't own a stretcher just a crab and the crab can only do so much we've been

on projects where we have two stretchers and like four crabs because the carpet

is that messed up and I mean granted it was out of Tolerance and the

manufacturer knew and they were like all right we're just going to pay you guys to get it in there we're confident it'll stretch that much and that's what we did

we we had a stretcher head on this side stretch your head on this side and stretched stretched it overnight let it

do its thing I I will say the the one thing that we did that on that project

that we learned uh was ripping it down into more manageable pieces to pre-stretch it like three foot four foot

wide pieces instead of the whole the whole 12 foot wi 12 foot six yeah we did

rip it down and and because not every part of it needed to be stretched that much

huh grinding the floor and putting it down without checking for paracity well a lot of guys also grind without even

vacuuming and they don't realize that that's grinding is going to introduce

dust into that concrete yeah i' I've been uh we've been

I should say guilty of not of of doing a vacuum after you

have a if you you got a really dusty job site coming back after lunch and thinking you could just

spread and nope all the dust from the settles like it just come yeah it just

came down and another good reason why a lot of flooring guys just prefer to work

it in the evenings when no one else is there because they cut sheetrock in the other room and that dust is over into

your room and it's enemy it

is days later I've seen it 30 days later still we've been into places like in

hospitals and then they're sanding it like we install and then they start sanding and then you can actually see it

migrating in the like the The Notches in between the notches and it just going

deeper and deeper H says Lan he learned that checking the carpet before insulation is

a must the problem is the store should be checking but they would leave it up to to the

installers to to check the day of installation he had he's had someone

send them bold material install it resend another role they said they double checked rolled it out and it was

the same thing and then he made another claim and

they said that he was probably wrong the in independent inspector came checked and said it was past the

tolerance again so you can't take anyone's word for it I mean

if you look at at just the the CFI right the the R1 you get into patterns and

elongation and bows and SKS and what to look for and how to look for it and it is a lot of it just falls on the

installer unfortunately but it it should be a Salesman type of thing but a lot of

these salesmen don't have the knowledge to just look at something and be like yeah that's wrong a lot well and and

think about it from a dollar's sense standpoint there's two things one most of the salesmen don't have the the skill

and ability to really know what they're looking at or really understand how to check it in the first place the second

thing is if you're pushing out 50 60 houses uh 75 houses a week or a hundred

even there's no time to unroll and

visibly I mean like dude that ain't going to happen it is going to fall on us and it's always going to fall on the

installer that's just how this business is until you get to where the

manufacturers don't try to send out crappy product because why is it that I'm going to defend the dealer on this

why is it the dealers responsibility they paid good money for quality product

manufacturer's Quality Inspection and yeah that that's on them I mean I get it

but well you also have that come to you and they're like yes just it's just some broadloom carpet

No pattern you get there and it's like a/ inch by 1 in pattern and it's like bro yeah like the hardest one I'd rather

do a three-foot pattern yeah just overlapping double cut right yeah well that's how you do all

carpet isn't it Serpentine brother Danny says he doesn't get it with all the social media

knowledge out there that it doesn't change and I think it's just that people some people don't want to change you

have to actually look at yourself and and admit that you're wrong

sometimes and that's hard for some people to do and Danny what do you specifically referencing like all the

problems from the manufacturer what or or are you are you talking about with

all the social media out there that you know the knowledge of these issues um should be wide

enough think smaller he's still he's a couple seconds he's a

little bit behind but yeah I I would I I'm wondering what he's referencing there but for sure like we all see stuff

on social media but unless you're in the learning like you're ready to learn just

running across someone else's fail isn't gonna I don't it doesn't it just isn't

gonna stick my favorite thing lately has been when the the guys that you see posting on a regular basis that are

posting some quality work and then they'll come out and be like just post a picture what's wrong with this picture

and then you know they'll be like yep that is that is the issue and then a lot of them are like and that is why I

worked until this time last night because I wasn't going to leave it like that but that's the thing it's you know

catching it and then fixing it and that's I think the the big thing about these rookie fails is you learn from

what you do like I don't ever want to make that mistake again like I know we've talked about before about trying

to glue down lenium like it was sheet vinyl and then there was bubbles everywhere it's like yeah I'm never

gonna do that again yeah part of it is like even after training you run across things because

there's no site there's so many millions of combinations from the type of concrete

to the job site conditions to the product that you're putting in to the adhesive you take four

variables and hundreds of thousands of different job sites and not one exact condition

matches the other that's why manufacturers are so vague in a lot of their their site conditions and then

they have to weigh that against like selling their product because there's a lot of Manufacturers um I won't name any

but we had a deal recently and this isn't on a flooring fil but it was it's just one of these examples

it says that the side condition should be uh between 65 and 85 for proper

installation and and and maintain uh for 40 48 Hours

thereafter well it's a PSA lvt and the when

it didn't when it gapped over what's uh

allowed it was like well what are they doing with the AC I'm like well they turn it off and I know that that's not shouldn't

happen but um your manufacturers instructions don't state that you have

to keep it there or within 10% SE some of them will say between seven and 10% or something

like that uh from there on it just says for 4 hours there after for 4 48

Hours 42 after yeah well that ain't gonna hold the that's not going to hold

the planks or or you know Help The Help the gapping out at all at all there are

so many issues but let's talk hard surface they remove floor pull product

out of the van and install or they think because drop off two days earlier

and assume it's acclimated no pH relative humidity yeah

well that's a whole different beast and I'm assuming you're talking about wood

uh for the first or just lvp natural

stone um yeah well you're not really checking

I guess you are checking our relative humidity of the of the uh area but you

know hardwood is even different because you got to check the actual wood moisture in the wood wood and in your

substrate and then there's the calculation you got to do to see if it's within tolerance

one of the best things a person can do for themselves is get trained get certifications continue learning after

that experience I ended up getting forb Master Certified Mohawk and mondo to this day I still learn all the time and

that's where hey man Lanny you you should be like an ambassador for us both at the

Huddle and for goera that is our that is

really active the groups and stuff too and I'm I'm pretty sure there's some

guys that still uh question his his knowledge even though he's been in it for a long time and he's learned so much

and just because they don't do it the exact same way that he does they're like nope you're wrong I don't need to do it

like that you're wrong I've done it this way for 20 years 20 years I can't stand that

saying yeah I mean when you have a just like um you know Danny was

talking about you know not checking for acclamation things like that I mean

that's that's a great uh time to be using floor cloud is

when you need to know your site conditions maybe you're not maybe you're you're not already on site and your

salesperson has that they can check the site conditions whether residential or commercial and they know right then

whether they should be dispatching you to the job whether or not they're going to be setting you up for success or not

so demand it demand floor Cloud it enables that real-time monitoring the

site conditions we're all believers we talk about it pretty often here about the simple and easy setup how great the

interface is and you know when you have job sites all over um particularly in

the commercial world but it obviously works just as good in the residential world uh you know having that

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floor cloud is awesome knowing your site conditions is awesome and knowing it at your fingertips is really awesome so

yeah thank you to our sponsors Flor Cloud um I would say that you know guys

talking about milk earlier got me thinking we will milk a subject and we are doing so let's keep this

going I love it so um you know another thing when you're

talking about these the first these uh flooring failures first off I just want

to say this like admit that you didn't know what the hell you was doing and you messing up it was really funny to hear

your story about messing up that uh tandis carpet and your brother coming and like he's well he fixed it and kept

me from messing it up even worse like you're you know you were messing it up and you're able to like just admit it

move on learn that L not everyone has someone walking in on them like when

you're when you're in there right so it it was one of those things like you caught me

so show me how fix it right well my point is when you were talking about like some people uh maybe you know

giving Lanny uh not trust in what he has to say because we've been doing this 20 years or whatever um like guys the if

you think what is that saying like the smart the dumbest person in the room is the person who thinks he knows it all

and it's because you can't learn you're not going to be able to learn if you um

are constant believing that your way is the best I've said this story plenty of times we have

a a really good carpet crew and we sent them to uh Dan CF to R1 and C1 see you

Danny see you in Vegas baby see you in Vegas um anyway they they're a good pretty

good carpet crew but you know we wanted to get them certified and sent them R1

C1 I believe they ended up going back uh and and continuing that but when they came back

they talked about like man I I was so wrong and there's

something about training that can kind of break you down like being in the training that these people giving each

other advice it doesn't come across the same because the ego's getting away if you're going to a training like you are

more open to learning you know that's what you're there for those guys came back and they were like man we call them

the McDaniel brothers and like gushed about how much they learned

how much they had been doing wrong and and how they're going to be doing some things different in the in the future

particularly as it as it came to and I think this they did go through C2 possibly because particularly when it

came to double glue down stuff yeah and I've had the privilege of working with you know um guys that work directly for

manufacturers and teaching them and it's like they come back and they're like man

I didn't realize how much I didn't know until you know we went through this

class with you and it's like and that that's what it's all about and I when I'm teaching the classes I'm like

straight up if you guys know something that I don't let me know and the last time one of the guys did show me you

know he's like it's just something simple is just turn your tip a little bit then you don't have to you know work

it a certain way and it's like man I did that the next flash C project I did and

it was like that's how I'm doing it every time now amen yeah keep on learning to learn and and you're like

well even even if you you do know that you know a little bit right and you know more than the average or you feel like

you know more than the average and then you go to a class and you surround yourself by people uh individuals who

are trying to get better at their craft is the amount of information that you guys can bounce off of each other and

and and put it together to create like a a new hybrid technique or something like that that's that's what makes it all

worth it and able to absorb that information and then apply it in real lifetime the next

time you touch it is is worth a waiting gold Dan says he's been learning for 36 happy 36 birthday

Dan you know uh one thing always comes to mind is that you shouldn't be doing tricks of

the trade if you haven't learned the trade so so if you're doing

like things that are outside the manufacturer's recommendations or industry standard and you don't even

know what the industry standard is you're not doing a trick you're experimenting you know you're you're

you're not even experimenting uh you're you're really risking a lot and I I say that to people who

have uh no industry training and they're like I got this trick no you may have

something but there's no basis for your for your knowledge so get to trainings I

say it every I feel like every week I feel like I'm a broken record but get

CFI trained go go you know uh you can go

to the CFI do um org and or is it do

[ __ ] what's that CFI installer yeah you're I don't know what's up with your

mic my mik what' I do no no your brother say it again say something Daniel you're not

coming through is he I was muted

installers my bad yeah he muted so he didn't cough in I've seen your lips

moving but I didn't hear anything Lanny says that floor cloud is great like

third party moisture testing should be required if for whatever reason someone doesn't use floor Cloud he highly

suggests getting certified to conduct moisture testing prop L too many use

out-of-date equipment and do not followm standards when testing and my thing is is that we are certified and I and we do

use that and Flor cloud is what gave us the ability to read remotely well read

remotely and be like okay I am going to do my own moisture testing now because there's no way that I can construe these

results like you're getting the same thing that I'm getting because you can share it to gc's and Architects or

homeowners whoever you want to send it to it's no longer a conflict of interest

it's just more of keeping everyone's best interest in the Forefront and

having that live documentation and updates is huge worth worth thank you

dan. and.org will get you there but it's like man get just get certified and know

that you don't know everything because it's it's a constantly changing

industry right every industry is like this if it's not changing then it's not

moving forward yeah yeah you got to stay up to date on all the new all the new

adhesives all the new application uh uh standards and you can

you can do that and build yourself a heck of an online reputation if you do

that and you have a go career profile too so um we'll be coming out with profile only some upcoming news here in

the new year uh we're working on finalizing some stuff for for uh that so

look look forward to um you know some some nice positive changes in the go-

career world so you can still get your free install our profile QR code right

on the screen but you can start building your rating uh start building your score

and get that thing up there and and that'll set you apart by from for

everyone meaning people understand a zero to five score um you know frankly

one of our problems in um flooring is there's so many different entities that

train and call different things different things so a homeowner may not know that a R2 is a good installer R2

you know but they're used to this 0er to five score so get on there and get your score that being said I am totally out

of mistake that I've made in this industry

or in the pocket for next time that I'm willing this one real quick there's

there's a when when I realized uh this is a while ago it also all this dumb stuff does involve me and Daniel for

some reason dude it really does involve me and Daniel we were working at a basement um of a um a priest home and

this is when I realized that flooring installers are not plumbers and don't act like you know what you're doing or

what you're messing with when we were installing sheet vinyl in the basement and we didn't know what we were touching

but we know that we could move it a little bit so we started rocking back and forth a pressure tank that was uh it

was a holding tank for all of this water was it was pressurized oh no no the pressure's

coming through the PVC and lift it up just a little bit more I push almost got it and right as it right as we like yep

good tuck it under boom it blew up and Water started coming out Daniel jumped on it like it was a

grenade put his hands over over it and water just went everywhere like no like

we appreciated the effort out of Daniel but it wasn't stopping anything no I still stopped a lot of that water I

don't even care what you say yeah okay yeah luckily the gentleman was very

understanding and and you know it was very humbling and said look here's what here's what happened I asked the guys do

this we were trying to get it in there so that way we have to make an unnecessary cut we wanted it to appear

that it was built on top and then boom but got the water shut off got everything fixed replaced and he

was actually very happy when we were done despite the damage that we

caused I always take one for the team taking one for the

team oh I'll just never forget that the the look on his face and the water didn't stop coming out

how would you just run do shut it off shut do theut yeah shut off the main y shut off

the main so I guess I guess that was another so how many gallons got out a lot I was soaked for the rest of the day

yeah there was a lot of water in that basement man wow if I were to

guess hundreds of gallons maybe yeah like not

good wow well if you're joining us today live thank you so much thanks everybody

for your comments and uh I didn't get a lot of stories but we got some that's

awesome again every thanks for the participation for every from everyone too amen yeah um we we always circles

back to training so we're a industry that needs trained um we're one of the

highest skilled Industries in the skilled trades in my opinion um and and

uh we need to prove it so let's go get trained let's get certified and uh let's build our build our reputations and uh

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Churchill still learning Dennis or Denise

yep so gu all right everyone on we're gonna be down in uh down in Vegas right

yeah hey thanks for bringing that it's gonna be a later show because we're going to do uh 400 PM Vegas time

whatever time zone that is yeah so catch us next week from live

from TY we're going to be uh hanging out going to a lot of different um different

um manufacturer booths we're g to try to get you guys some news give you some

insight on uh how the show's going and yeah who all is going to Vegas Lanny

Jorge yeah yeah awesome all right

everybody thanks for joining us and we will see you next week from Las Vegas

see you thank you everyone peace