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Blue Collar Cruise #2 Preferred Flooring/Go Carrera

In the next episode of our series titled Blue Collar Cruise, we continue our journey through the web and various publications to unearth and discuss more controversial topics relevant to the blue-collar community. This episode aims to provoke thought and encourage dialogue on lesser-known or often avoided issues that impact the industry. By shedding light on these critical subjects, we foster a deeper understanding and prompt a call to action among our listeners. Tune in to join the conversation and engage with the pivotal topics that everyone in the blue-collar sector should be talking about.

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what's up team welcome to the Huddle we're your weekly Playbook where we not only strategize on playing the game but

changing it from mastering the fundamentals of the craft to distinguishing ourselves in the

marketplace we're here to ensure the installers is is equipped with

everything you need let's band together and Forge a new Legacy in flooring this is where you belong welcome to the team

what's up guys how's it going it's good I always uh expect like

um Jose to say something you know right on the back side of that like oh there

he goes or just leave that too go my cheerleader all right well welcome

everybody uh to this week's episode of the Huddle and our second um episode of

the blue collar cruise we call it Cruise where we get on you know construction uh

oriented uh media find interesting topics and discuss them with you guys

and uh love to hear the comments and see the uh chat go crazy on some of these

things but um oops as as we are getting going what's up

there's Jose he's back man got the

so on this week's uh blue collar cruise we got a couple topics about

sustainability uh some of you guys may have had a patcraft rep come by and show

you their new products which is pretty cool if you are familiar with it talking

about expansion we hear all this bad stuff in the media every week and you

know here on the bluecar cruise we hope to bring you a little bit of sunshine in the construction world

and uh bring up you know the fact that

manufacturing construction is going through the roof

uh sharing a cool um a cool map with you that kind of

shows how uh manufacturing constructions going up and that that goes more goes

further than just manufacturing facility you know uh Daniel you guys do a job

maybe it's just a warehouse but there's always an office space in supporting uh subcontractors like here in witcho if

Spirit grows or Boeing grows what's up Jesus um well then so does a lot of the

manufacturers uh and suppliers to them uh which just has a cascading effect in

any given area you guys um you know what that's like I mean it's

not just because manufacturing is booming what what that creates is what is kind of

exciting yeah with every with every other business that that's going up and like you said at warehouse you know they

they also have a front end that has to run that that business in the front end most of the front end parts of those

types of businesses need to be comfortable in an office yep and then there's a cool bridge that

that we found a time-lapse video of uh which is kind of cool how they've built this thing we'll kind of share

that so getting started with the first

topic and this is uh sustainability topic and and the question that is posed

is can sustainability professionals help contract or save energy so first off we've heard this uh

green uh you know recycled content we had a episode about

recycling products and such um I don't know when was that Daniel like six

months ago probably yeah and this is just talking about

how the awareness uh is still increasing and

that nearly 60% of companies are striving to adopt some type of Greener

uh practices uh whether that's embracing sustainability in their manuf facturing

or using eco-friendly materials and uh designs you know one of the one of the

probably uh monkeys on contractors or Construction Industries back is when we

used to demo stuff we just demo a building and almost all the material just end up in a landfill today we're

recycling con uh concrete we're recycling there's people even recycling

the wood recycling uh metal studs and and all of that and flooring is not uh

you know void of this subject one example of this in floring is Pat

Craft's newly released resilient flooring product uh it's pretty much a

completely PVC uh free product called REM material uh it's full of

recyclable uh resilient n the cool thing is

they put the image on have you guys seen this I have not so they put the they

came in and presented to us about a week ago and they put the image directly on the backing so you don't have a backing

a film you know image film and then a wear layer you just

have the image printed on the product

and then their scratch resistant uh coating put over the top of that so it's really me minimalist in

design it looks the same it's got more of a satin finish and um it's really

cool it is 100% recyclable and uh made from polyethyl or

poly Olan sorry materials and 20% %

postc consumer recycled plastic my question to patcraft when this happened

with um when it happened uh when they came in

was performance-wise how is the product performing from a expansion retraction

and curling is the installation

sustainable so that's because we we've gone through that right when everyone you switches over to something new and

then you don't know the effects until later on yeah and I think in our other episode

we also talked about was the fact that uh you know how how easy is it to get

this material back to them to recycle so that's always a um I think

that's always a big question is it's great that it's recycled if you can return it um but patcraft has a return

Reclamation program uh where the product can be fully recycled at the end of its

lifespan so it's it's going to be essentially it would be made into

ecoworks product line um which is their recycled carpet packing so kind of cool

that Florine has I I think that's one of the attempts that Shaw's you know

leading and being uh sustainable I don't know that these I don't know these subjects

really hit home with a lot of a lot of us I'm not you know I think we should

recycle when we can but I also am not probably Mr

environmentalist you know well it's just becoming more common on job sites too especially like even when I'm going

through bid documents it says that you know the the gc's that bidding it has to have certain

dumpsters on site for everyone to recycle like you said all the way down

to even the concrete yeah so materials that can be recycled get thrown into one dumpster

and there's a trash dumpster is that right yeah and I mean they'll have a a

concrete dumpster a metal dumpster a cardboard dumpster and a trash dumpster

Y is that more common today is it continuing to get more very common

we have had that happen on a handful of jobs but uh usually it's a government work like on on mllo air force base or

something they they'll do that but uh and they'll have in the in the bid

documents too right that you have to recycle whatever you're ripping up like no if and your butts about it it's if it

costs you money they want that number in that in that contract yeah and I think that

contractors who get behind it understand that ultimately the adoption of sustainable practices isn't isn't just

about reducing their environmental impact it's about enhancing the

company's reputation and showing that it's uh driving Innovation and and trying to

find ways to make um sustainability provide some cost savings

as well I know that's one of the the big decisions for construction firms is to

invest in sustainable products and initiatives and people uh you know in a

strategic move to uh provide long-term economic as well as environmental

impact um but it's got to hit mass production everybody wants to do their

part yeah want everybody to to give them a little bit just everybody does a little

bit it all adds up but like as far as it like being common I wanted to add to that it was really breaking up on my

side but um it is very common to see them doing that but like you said it is more on the larger contractors or

government projects or state funded projects where it's built into the contract that uh the school district is

requiring that and um you know it's it's annoying when you do you on

what what's your what's your where do you guys stand on it what's your thoughts is it worth the extra time and

money that's going forward right now on uh you know and has been maybe for the

last five years more heavily I think anything that we can say from going into a landfill is a bonus to be honest with

you especially if it is recyclable why not and and all you're doing

basically passing the buck right you're you're you're charging them in order to do it because there's always going to be

some charges in there well sometimes I'll tell you that new lvt

from for me it's always like how is this going to perform you know how is the new

product going to perform past and better or equal to the previous product lines

um you know it's got to make dollar and cents uh I think so I wonder how many of

our of our audience Mr Flor Flor God is in the house uh have you guys installed

any sustainable products uh particularly if anybody's uh messed around with Pat

Craft's new REM material uh LBT it'd be interesting to know no I was looking on

the website though and it looking like um they actually planned for

um things to happen because they have a back bevel on it so that means that it's it's beveled so that way when it when it

does come together I mean the Top's going to be touching that a slight angle and with that

um that type of I mean you're talking about recycled material you don't know exactly how

that's going to do long term yet right because I mean if it's new we don't know how long they've been testing it they

may may have been testing it for a long time already but if anything environmentally happens they just have that cushion in there so if it's going

to expand and contract yeah I'm sure they most of the

manufacturers that took uh that took a beating in the first attempt at some of that sustainability stuff uh I think um

you know maybe are taking a different approach a more uh dare I say sustained

approach like get trying to get it right I tell you what it looks really like a

really nice product so

that that is uh that is a little bit in the uh environmental Zone couple new

projects that are probably worth bringing up that we found now this is Purdue University so Indiana they're

planning $239 million uh for re for construction and

renovation this came uh as a report by construction dive that Purdue has

outlined several key construction projects one of which is a uh

interdisciplinary life science research building which is on its own $160

million project uh the university got a little bit of State

support but they're also um touting this 140,000 square foot facility will uh

also uh be built in some sustainable Manner and looks like a 2026 completion

one of the uh topics that we love to cover here is just you know some of

these future projects I mean there that's nothing if you're not in Indiana

um necessarily but that's a huge project single single Source at $239

million and there's a lot of that uh which leads us into our next uh topic

which is the

um manufacturing boom so this has really been driven by what would you say Mr

Daniel uh trying to bring jobs back over here right yep there's been a big push

to get jobs back in the US plus the chip manufacturing you know all the scares of

being short of Chip manufacturing I I actually was uh fishing last

week um with a guy who used to build these types of plants for um out in um San Diego for a

big GC and he talked about how complicated a chip manufacturing plant

is but construction dive talks about the US has made significant strives in

revitalizing the uh manufacturing sector and it passed uh you know we we just

passed a 52 billion chips and science act uh that was maybe a year or two ago

uh yeah looks like August of 22 so some of these projects are coming out now and

the uh according to the White House this legislative push has driven over $ 898

billion in private investment across the country so it's it's stuff like you know

biotech uh semic uh semiconductor fabrication you could imagine all these

electrical Vehicles need electric vehicle batteries and clean energy uh so

these are kind of the underpinnings of this huge push this that's almost a

trillion dollars that's almost a trillion

dollars in in manufacturing or in in in money go

into uh us manufacturing so you know if you're if you're out there getting

trained in these uh you know being a highly trained installer you can take uh

advantage of a lot of these ESD floorings as well as most of these facilities have massive offices attached

to them or separate from them uh so you know there's going to be a lot of work for the flooring world through this as

well and I think it just bodess well to look at these positive aspects of the economy when we look at the economy

we're always told to bad on mainstream news but you know the truth is almost a

trillion bucks has went into this and the projects are starting to come out

we're talking about sensors and all this stuff uh that are you know these plants

are being made for and you know speaking of sensors one of the best sensors you

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yeah so we're gonna need that kind of Technology uh you know that FL Cloud

brings to the table anytime you do projects like this especially big ones I know you guys have

had good success with for cloud we deploying on a couple of bigger projects

we've got it on on three projects right now so even if it's like we we've already done the moisture testing and

monitored that right for for a while and then uh once it's once everything is

fine and we know you know I have my reports and stuff written up and everyone is good I go pull them out take

them to the next project so we've uh we pulled all the actual moisture tests out

but we still leave the monitor there so I can monitor the ambient conditions and

it it lets you know like on your phone this is out of spec range so that way we

can go to to the contractor and be like hey like if you want me there tomorrow you're going have to do something about

[Music] this well you guys have already used it more than we have and we are excited to

uh get our sensors and start deploying it uh I know that some of our uh some of

the training entities like aft and I believe CFI even are using it to kind of

like um monitor their their their uh training facilities and just show the

cool technology to to people so yeah get yourself a floor Cloud if you're a

flooring contractor uh get with Scott and Patrick over there at floor cloud.com and check it out it is a

savior floor Cloud seems like the commercial contractor savior uh I would

say yeah it's it probably say it definitely is a timesaver well they're not arguing so

those are the types of things with the numbers that that a big Point

too all right continuing on here with construction manufacturing boom one of

the cool things I wanted to bring up is that you know we brought up one of the

largest projects was going to be in Oklahoma City like the tallest building in the

well I don't know how Oklahoma is doing it right though they got a $620 million

norson project in Tulsa so this the Midwest area is getting some stuff

Aurora Colorado's got a $600 million Philip Morris International

facility and down in Stanford North uh Carolina there's a $530

million kaiwa Kiron uh manufacturing plant I mean that just shows you like

the the that's a those are hu those are huge numbers of commitment um you know to technology so

if you have if you're not embracing technology this goes back to several other of our podcasts if you're not

embracing technology uh this should encourage you to dip your toes in there because all

this is in support of sensors as I said um uh chip manufacturing

biotechnology electric vehicles and batteries clean energy which we touched on just a few minutes ago as well um and

and Healthcare will never stop either so I seen on there it says that you know there's uh 4.1 billion in healthcare

Manufacturing in North Carolina that's how big is that gez $4.1 billion Health

manufacturing center in Clayton North Carolina and that's where you know we we talked about

um like broadening your your horizon right and where you could if a lot of

these places that had polished concrete or epoxies or you know resonance

flooring and um we we ran into situation here at one of the battery manufacturers

where it was supposed to be rubber flooring all welded and they pulled it

from under us at the last second and switch it to

epoxy Y and there's there's ESD epoxies out there that that's what it was too

yeah and and it uh we ended up going back in there and I guess they said that after

they installed the epoxies there was bubbles six foot tall in some

areas in the epoxy in the epoxy holy moly how how is that possible

I don't know but he he that's what they said they were like this is what happened so they had to redo it they had

to redo it wow well floor prep is an important

part floor prep and uh and site conditions are an important part of uh

any flooring but it does show the uh the benefits I'll tell you when Amazon was

building all of their plants we we at our epoxy crew do all of the uh Epoxy

paint stripes out the lines yeah just that was like $100,000 worth of work and

we did it on three different Amazon projects so that's just uh opening your

horizons and and uh thinking outside the box a little bit so the chip act which

is the act that was really passed to address our concerns in America for

Semiconductor chips uh but it does State here that uh it's been a significant

Catalyst to all of this and has uh provided $ 52.7 billion for

Semiconductor research development manufacturing and Workforce

Development alongside that is a 25% uh investment tax credit for Capital

expenses in semiconductor manufacturing so we're going to be build building a lot of these semiconductor plants here

to subsidize our uh purchase of semiconductors from Taiwan

and um yeah so I thought that was interesting that you know one one thing

spurred that much growth and uh you know

goes to show you know the the economy is a little bit uh you know in question but

there's plenty of building in construction and your jobs aren't getting taken over anytime soon by AI

they got plenty of other bigger fish to fry than than us so we got a I don't

know man I seen the videos of robots doing like drywall and stuff already so yeah in very

uh very controlled spaces uh I think that it it the the problem is the site

uh they if you build offsite uh material or off-site buildings which I think would be a cool episode is to bring on a

builder that's doing the modular building you know they go they build this um we were planning in a planning

meeting with J dun on a facility a pre-bid planning meeting uh this been

quite a while back but it was talking about building parts of this

Hospital a lot of it was built offsite and then it ships to the and you just they just kind of bolted together even

some of the flooring's installed offsite and then you tie it in almost like mobile home or something so you know

we've also done a fair amount of work with a company called Redbox and they do

these uh blast resistant buildings so like uh F uh fertilizer plants and

foundaries and stuff like that they'll they'll they the office is built offsite

out of container materials it's not like they take used containers and make it

red box manufacturers containers as well but they'll take that and build it off

site the problem is the uh the technology for as far as like AI doing

your deal you could have a robot but a human still has to run that yeah um there AI as I'm talking about is like

you're just replaced with that uh robots uh you know they have the remote

controlled blasting machines and stuff like that I mean in essence Grinders

down machines now and Rollin says like all this is is great right so how is

this going to help the small mom and popop installers doing one room at a time some of them are starving right now

and I think that cuz people don't look you can't you can't just look at

one segment it is is way off just

because if are being kind

of a couple we were talking about

you know what what else can you put under in your portfolio so that way you can go out there and do something else

and it's probably um I in my opinion he's talking more

residential right or you talking about commercial doing one room jobs well even residential these these these places are

then to to boil it down to the small mom popper let's call it the retailer when

you build a new plant that that um that employ four or 5,000 people in an area

there's going to be a residential need for new new housing uh remodels

Replacements all that stuff to support that it is a cascading effect so that's

one way I would also encourage the Mom Pop to evolve a little bit and not you

know we have to to grow into new things and look at other opportunities out

there uh to to expand your business locally right now like what we're seeing

is we're not seeing a Slowdown in new construction you could you'll probably

end up seeing slow downs in remodels right but in the new construction there's still houses going up like they

can't even keep up with it plus we got apartment buildings going up like crazy like they just

sold just around here two or three golf courses and that's what their main focus

is is how many new homes or apartments can we put on these

things yeah I think that's where it helps the Mom Pop is yeah they're not going to go do the epoxy and a 200,000

square foot semiconductor plant but they're going to do the housing for the

the people who the workforce there and those are like guess what John says right here houses need to re yeah so I

remember when net apppp uh moved into our area their average job uh for their

they they were one of the Pioneers in cloud computing technology uh alongside

of um alongside Amazon I think or was

helping uh I could have that wrong but basically their average um their average

salary I can't remember how many thousands of job but their average salary job that they brought when they

moved in uh was 725 that's that's means there's a lot of

highlevel people making uh good money so you're going to have luxury housing you're G to have work uh the workforce

that's putting the stuff together at at higher wages uh demanding nicer homes or

at least nicer finishes maybe they buy a home remodel that thing I think it Spurs

a lot of stuff you know and you can't have billions of dollars run into a single facility and to um all the money

that it takes to to uh employ all the people to fill that facility and it not

have a cascading effect to the local economy so I think it's a good thing I was going to share a share just a map of

of the let me do this I'm G share a map showing the

so says on here

Bill buildings over there and hired very little people like they they brought in

their their own guys but it's still bringing people to the area so you're still looking at

Remodeling and having to change out some

flooring as as far as the jobs I I've been in some of those conversations like

locally when they're talking about you know building this and

that's like our city the first one of the first

questions they ask is how many jobs is this going to bring how much money is this going to put into the economy over

here yeah sometimes it's about local jobs being created sometimes it's about

bringing a higher population to the area as well when they do this a lot of times

a lot of the workers go to the plant from other areas uh which is welcomed as

well I mean the Mom Pop Shop uh I don't know about installer but the mom pop uh

you know um restaurant and there the if

people are moving into the area it they may not hire in the area all the time um

I think it looks like to me that rollin's talking about that they didn't uh hire very many people locally locally

yeah uh but that doesn't mean they didn't bring population with them that then spurred more uh demand for flooring

products and building materials in general but check this map

out these are semiconductor uh plants I mean

Texas Kansas has got Integra this is a big project that we're uh tracking heavy

on is Integra technology IES right here in my hometown another semiconductor

plant in Burlington Kansas and then up in Kansas City area they've got an EV

plant but look at this map you can see the up by that whole concentration right

there yeah up by you guys lots of EV plants up in

there Michigan EV plant like geez Ford Ur

uh Al what does that say alum

cells I don't even know like a dip [ __ ] I can't even read that but you know it's that but proof positive there's a ton of

semiconductor EV and and uh General manufacturing thought that map was

pretty cool showing you that all across the United States they're building these things and it's that new technology we

want to be on the Forefront we just can't have closed minds as as uh installers I think at the end of the day

there's going to be new products we need to have our eyes on I know I want to do a better job of like keeping my eyes

looking forward uh for new product lines new new installation methods Port

flooring ESD floorings uh you know epoxy coatings

I think we're going to we're we're talking about possibly starting an epoxy in-house epoxy crew and and uh focusing

on some of that poured floors um and then of course uh polished

concrete that's always a a big thing in these big manufacturing plants well

manuf are going from floor covering to

just don't have to it and then they start one day they'll start hating it again and we'll go in there

and and throw something made one cycle it's made one cycle I mean all of the

Kroger stores were were VCT or something like that and then they went to polish

concrete stained concrete and then they went back to lvt or they went to lvt

because every time somebody drops something on a stained concrete floor that has a high vinegar content which is

a lot of food uh it just you can't get rid of it it's this big splash Mark and

it's not ever going to get be gone and that vinegar eats the

stain so I I heard a story and we experienced one Walmart where they did polish

concrete because they kept having moisture problems and didn't want to mitigate and uh they had such a moisture

problem that the feet of their metal uh some of the feet on their metal started rusting and they were like oh crap we

got to do something and that's that St back to lvt now so it makes its rounds

um check this video out I'm GNA show you a timlapse video I don't know do we have

time we're we're running short I may leave that but I'll throw it up in the

uh the um see if

share this it's kind of cool these time laap time lapse

videos uh let's see if I can put this in here I'm trying to put it in the chat for everyone yeah if you want to check

out that uh that time lapse of this bridge that they

built um in buck buck Hamshire

uh 450 meter long Viaduct um or via deck was assembled in

three stages I watch a video it's pretty freaking cool um and then to the opinion

poll coming out of uh kind of uh construction dive they they put these

opinion polls up in different times and uh this one is successful mentorship is

a two-way street I thought it'd be interesting to kind of talk about this uh they call it bidirectional mentorship

and it's not just about uh not just valuable but essential for the future of

construction industry so traditionally mentorship has been

viewed as a one-way Street meaning I Mentor somebody where an executive or a

a upper level manager or something you know imparts knowledge in a junior

employee or into a um you know a new

person or or even a friend uh but approaching it where both people

learn because there's a lot I can learn from other people and I try to approach mentorship this way myself uh but it's

par they they say that having it go both ways in the construction industry where

we can learn from the younger uh col our younger colleagues as well to gain a

fresh perspective uh is particularly impactful and it shows uh the senior professionals

where they can gain that fresh perspective the construction industry is facing rapid technology advancements we

just talked about that and with all of that the younger crowd that is being

trained in these uh building Technologies how to build these big plants and stuff is and

prefabrication virtual and augmented reality and AI is taking a big step in

construction from the design and architecture standpoint so these younger professionals are more familiar with all

those Technologies and they're able to offer valuable insights to your more

seasoned um project managers or more seasoned Professionals in

construction um I think like just just looking at that like technology is huge

in that aspect right to where it's you can look at them for

guidance like professionally and then they have to look back at you and be like what else can I be

doing you know myself to to make everything better and more streamlined and that's where a lot of the technology

comes in where we can show the the older generation like look you can use go

Carrera and this is I mean this is a a conversation that my brother just had yesterday and you know they they call us

and they're like hey um we're a little slow right now can do you guys have anything and we're like yeah this is

what we use and they're like man is that really necessary and we're like yeah it is it makes everything more streamlined

like you don't it's a no-brainer the hardest part for most of technology is getting it set up initially after that

it's just keep on using it yeah there's always an adoption curve to all of it

and the the mentorship I think you know speaking of that and the adoption of

Technology ing how fast this stuff moves like John's talking about with one of

his fcef classes the truth is there's there you know we're launching new

technology as an industry um go carrera's launching new

technology um our adoption curve in our industry is going to equate to Our

Success I believe that a lot of this stuff has to do with listening to the younger guys coming out uh what do they

what are they striving for and many of them want to work the way they grew up

most of these most of the younger crowd has grown up with an iPhone or an iPad

or or a you know my four-year-old grandson knows how to go to YouTube like

literally find his video and go to YouTube and play it and then close that out and go to the next YouTube video and

there was a a teacher right and they I don't remember where I seen this but um she kind of

instead of doing lesson plan and you're like kids put everything away only pay attention to me she actually had her

lesson plan right next to just a video of whatever the kids watch on like

YouTube and stuff these days and she said that their attention span just focused right there even though they

might not have been looking at the lesson plan the whole time they did way better at the next test than they would

have if they so that that's yeah I think it's

easy for us to to say that's not the right way to to do things or that's not the right way to learn we I think we

need to be um or you know I strive to be a little bit more open-minded these days

than being uh closed-minded on things uh or say well that's not the right way to

learn that's not you know kids shouldn't be on their devices all day I agree to a

point like let's get out side and play but at the same time what industry are they going to be going into it's going

to be in those those industries that are if they're going to be successful they're going to have to understand

technology and Ai and and understand all this in 15 20 years it's going to be

drastically a different business landscape so you know all of the

companies and people who are open-minded and looking out in the future and really

considering what technologies can help connect us quicker provide efficiencies

and improve uh quality of experience for customers wherever that may be the

people and companies who are adopting that I think are are the ones who are going to not get left behind uh there's

always you know there's always casualties when change happens and I

don't know the answer to how to keep keep that from happening keep it from

having casualties but it is the unfortunate Truth at least to this point is when new things come about there's

people that don't adopt it and get left behind um and uh I'm not not sure that

you can save all those but my employ here on the on the Huddle and our our

approach has always been to at least consider the new technology EX at least

think about it give it a run uh get used to doing business in a

more Modern Way way uh whether that's reading your floor sensors from your

phone at dinner when your Crews on site getting ready to go on site like that's

a that's a huge time saer uh and it's a it's a big um you know it's a a much

better experience for the client other Industries are already doing what you're talking about floring is just or is

starting just needs a couple more kicks in the ass I agree John we're trying to

put the boots on uh just it's just hard in our industry because

it's unregulated compared to some of the these other ones and unmotivated in a

lot of ways I talked to a a good colleague that everybody would know if I said his name but I was just talking to

him on on the phone the other day and he said his efforts in in this realm in

training technology this kind of stuff uh he goes I know you know Paul with go

Carrera but it's like pushing a boulder uphill and it's a big ass Boulder and he

he's been in the industry forever and he he I don't think he can put his thumb on to why we're so resistant why are we so

resistant to new ideas and there's other industries that pick this stuff up like this and they

just you want to talk about being left behind we're the industry that gets left behind because we're so slow or I I

don't know I I don't know I but it ain't going to

keep me from still pushing the limits uh I know it doesn't keep you guys from

pushing the limits and um I think we're just going to keep keep doing what we're

doing because we believe in the cause uh uh keep trying to get better ourselves

and uh hopefully we bring a lot of people along the the journey and um my

my hope is that some other torches get lit and other people can start doing some cool stuff too uh I don't want to

rule the world I just want to get our industry moving forward um that's been

the the maybe the biggest um purpose of go Carrera is the fact is is you got to

be able to deal with people in a digital world and know who you're dealing with and that's the basis of what goera was

or is go career core is and we're just launching jumpstart next week the new

site will be live all the new students out of the fcef and CFI and everybody

that's going to be new out of the programs from flooring Basics um is

they're all going to uh be new candidates on there and updated so it's it's going to be cool if you are looking

to hire new train you know newly trained

individuals if you're an installer go to go career.com

jumpstart and uh check it out the new site will be live next uh Thursday I believe and

it'll have all the new candidates on there so uh a subscription to jumpstart is $99 per

year so if you make one Higher that's less than the sugar it costs in your

coffee every day like it's it's 99 bucks a year you may not have a um candidate

in your area but some of the candidates may be willing to relocate uh so $99 a

year is about as cheap as you can get to peruse new candidates and uh we're

hoping that everybody will uh join that wave of hiring digitally um you'll get

to see a little bit about them schedule an interview do all this good jazz and

uh you know avoid the Craigslist dumpster fire of trying to of

trying to uh you know figure out well Rin it it costs less than your your

black coffee um I don't I don't know a good comeback to that it C costs less than one of the

beans it takes to make that black coffee Andrew support the industry so

we'll put your name up or your company logo up on the website under the supporters and uh there's manufacturers

that are getting involved as well uh as a quick overarching thing to close this

out jump starts uh filling the gap of placement for the industry so as the

fcef CFI AF all these entities train new people we want them to go on to jump

start and then we'll give all of our subcontractor Network as well as all of

the uh the companies that are are member companies uh access to jum start for

that $99 a year uh so everybody's kind of jumping on board with that and you

can hire as many people as you want you can interview and hire as many people as you want for that 99 bucks hire them

all yeah take that monster so what's up

Jose back in back in the saddle he you're on my headphones he can't even

hear you he's back though oh true that all right well we've uh We've came come

to the last uh part of this uh podcast we're running out of time and which is

kind of amazing we've only talked about three different things but what I would say out of all this is

um there is going to be immense opportunity for people in

manufacturing uh in the flooring side for the flooring that support the

manufacturing uh facility office spaces and um Embrace technology guys I

I think that one of the things about the blue colar Cruise today is it's all talking about technology in some manner

so embrace it find the the companies that are being Innovative go alongside them help them out work with your ffs of

the world get involved with go Carrera uh talk with the you know preferred

flooring look at what they're doing um floor cloud like just getting involved

in get involved period it doesn't matter where it is just just get involved man it's the the

industry is not going to move forward without everyone trying to push it and if you're not trying to push it and you're one of those guys that you know

is scared of the change time to look at your mindset

because if you always did what you if you if you always do what you've always done you always get what you always got

right so that I know everyone is scared to change and it's just human nature but I mean it's

the name of the game we got to move forward we gota we got to get on it with technology and making our our jobs a lot

easier yeah that's where courage comes in and taking a leap of faith um and

there's a lot of companies and people who have done that and uh get alongside them I mean I've named some of them on

this podcast multiple multiple times you guys know I'm the founder and CEO of go

Carrera you know preferred flooring and what they've done and that they're big supporters of us and close I mean they

are the Huddle and we do this to bring this information to the Forefront uh so

like Daniel just said get involved in some manner get on the Huddle have have some communication and uh you know come

on as a guest we always appreciate our commenters every single week you guys

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change the game the intro that I fumble off often is still very true we want to

change the game and we want to strategize on being the best that we can be and bring you the tools and

techniques that we run across out in the industry that can help us all succeed so

with that I will sign off and tell everybody to have a good week and we'll catch you guys next week yeah thanks

guys we'll see you guys