The Huddle - Episode 123 - Managing Time and Resources Effectively on Installations

In this episode of The Huddle, Paul, Daniel, and Jose dive into the essentials of managing your time and resources effectively in the flooring industry. From prioritizing tasks to optimizing your workflow, they share practical strategies to help you make the most of your day and get the best results with the resources you have. Whether you’re running a flooring business or working as an installer, these tips are key to boosting productivity and reducing stress.

The Huddle was created by Paul Stuart of Stuart & Associates and Go Carrera, alongside Jose and Daniel Gonzalez from Preferred Flooring. Aimed at helping you maintain forward progress in your flooring career, they cover topics from personal and business growth, to installation tips & tricks and everything in-between.

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what's up team welcome back to the Huddle or your weekly Playbook to help you gain forward progress in your

flooring career for our new viewers welcome to the team today I am joined with a blank

screen and hopefully Jose Gonzalez uh Daniel is out on a job site and

hopefully he can join as well we're talking about managing your time and

resources for installation this has been um you know

one of the key factors I think in uh a lot of of different installer success

and um the best installer subcontracting Crews that we have here are really uh

really really good at this um across the industry I know that one of the things

that that uh you know comes from go carrera's

clients is the uh the desire for the the the crew leader to be able to manage his

time and resources including the employees that he has um to you know

best serve the overall uh customer which is you know whoever we're we're all

doing the project for so Mr Jose are you around my man I am can you guys hear me

at all I can I can hear you wonderfully I can't see you yeah just uh I think my

camera just wants to malfunction today I've I've already reset my computer like three times um it just to turn on so but if

you can hear me that's fine I don't have a face for a for TV anyway I was I was hoping

um I could uh throw a avatar of your face on on the screen

but I can't so we'll we'll live with your uh with your name and and uh the

blank screen knowing that you're in the background listening so happy election

day everybody I hope everybody got out and voted and and voiced their uh you

know cast their vote and and vo their their support for whichever candidate

you guys are going for and your any local um elections going on as well I

got voted uh voting done earlier so should

be hopefully a um a smooth evening but uh I don't know I I'm

I'm a bit concerned that either direction it's G to be a little bit crazy

so I don't think it matters you're right either way the this ele so many people

against one another Jose would it be possible for you to join from your phone I

wonder for um that might be better than having a blank

screen yep all right I'm gonna I'm gonna disconnect here and I'll join on my phone

okay well right now you guys got me uh where trying to get Jose uh geared back

in and Daniel's out on job site so today again we're going to be talking about managing your time and resources on

installation so uh get active in the chat and uh let me know what you you

guys' secrets are out there as I said early on um our best

Crews um are the ones who manage their time and resources the best and there's

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are uh you know wondering if the job site's ready for you or the company that

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conditions do not match that particular ular product as we all know there's different flooring products that have different sight condition requirements

and having floor Cloud on there with your products loaded in will give you

the uh alert if the site condition is out of spec for that particular product

so it's a really big timesaver um you know like us a lot of our projects are

hours away and being able to get the site conditions from four hours away and not have to send somebody out is a real

game changer and if you uh connect your Wagner moisture meters to the uh device

then you can even get your moisture readings from there so Jose has joined us what's up I love the shirt brother oh

yeah represent all day well it's election day and we are

here talking about maximizing our time and resources on

installations one of the uh things I I talked about while you were off uh not

on was how much uh we appreciate the crews that really you know manage their

employees manage their their tools their they always seem to have what is needed

for the job now go career helps with that because they know ahead of time what the job requirements are they don't

come into the the shop that morning and get their work order and find out what they're doing they've known for quite

some time what the uh requirements of that job is so there's Mr

Daniel looks like he's in a van yes sir can you hear me all right

all right uh yeah we can hear you great and it's perfect timing for you to be in

this situation because we're talking about managing time and resources uh on our installations and I was just telling

Jose how for us the Cru When We Get slow we're in a little bit of a slower time

right now but when we get slow it's those Crews that really do good at this

that always stay busy with us they never seem to have a slow time even though we do they never recognize it because it's

the crews that are less um capable in this Arena because we want you know the

guys who manage their Crews and their employees and their their equipment correctly they always just seem to like

I said have the the right tools on the on the truck and uh you know able to to

the job site in a timely manner and take care of the project so you know it's it's funny because I just had a

conversation with um a custom builder today about about this about this

subject he was like man you just you're making my life so easy right now and I

really appreciate it and I would I look forward to doing more work with you um and I was like well well buddy like

we're just getting started man don't be putting that on me yet and he started laughing and uh um and you know he just

asked a bunch of questions and and said look it's um it's been my experience that you know

I am starting labor only than doing what we're doing now it I've experienced more

success and built better Relationships by taking stuff off of someone else's plate absorbing it

handling it and then just reporting back I make their job easier they appreciate

me more when they appreciate you more you get more steady workflow um on the

installation side and that was that was the conversation in a nutshell and um he

just appreciated the the communication as well yeah I I think communication is

part of that what what is your um you know Daniel you've been out and about

and working out in the in the field but you guys also subw work when you when you need to what's what's kind of the

key um takeaways from for you guys that you can share that really allow you to

you know have that comfortability level when you're working with

subcontractors uh essentially just babysitting them a little bit at first making

sure and it it is just telling them hey we need more communication hey we need

pictures every day

yeah so do you guys um when when you're talking when when a sub is or when a

crew I'll just say a crew when a crew is showing up to your job site um managing

their people their their installers or their their employees how important is

that oh that's super important dude like the last thing you want to do is uh

regardless if it's your in-house crew or a a a trade contractor that you hired to

help out the last thing you want to do is is is go in and start micromanaging

their responsibilities or even even if that's what you're used to doing you

don't want to be that guy that goes in there and tries to micromanage somebody else's company um you know

it's as much as we could appreciate someone who takes care of everything and

makes life easier I'm sure they can appreciate and when I say they I refer to us back in the day too is we can

appreciate someone who isn't micromanaging what we're doing either it's a a trust uh you got to trust the

whole process right every I trust every everybody and everything until until I I have a reason

not to that's a good point a lot of guy a lot of Crews they want they they

really need you to to give them that leeway to operate the job I mean legally

you're you have to give them that leway to operate the job and do their job but

um you know the ones that really tend to have uh all the questions like you know

there's a there's a lot of guys that they'll get a work order from and then when they have questions they

we'll still have a face-to-face meeting on site prior to the installation starting to make sure that layouts are

all talk through any floor prep stuff anything that's got to do with that job

and we super appreciate when there's when a work order is accepted by somebody but they don't have all the

information that they reach out to us and ask us a lot of times we try to do

that and make sure that you know our managers are responsible for providing good information but sometimes it takes

that installer's eye looking at the job and like hey but what about this oh hey I noticed that the LBT is 5 millimeter

and your sheet vinyls three are we putting a transition there we leveling it up that kind those kinds of questions

man that those are that's managing that information that's part of managing the job as a as a crew leader as an

installer back to to the the crews too because

we've always been the ones that are like we need this information like so that way we know how to plan uh and and be

efficient at the project when the reality is that a lot of guys tell us

even today that they just show up and then get a work order and they're surprised with whatever they're doing

that day which is not how things should be rain yeah I was uh menting earlier I

think you may have been on Daniel that you know that's one of the things we really appreciate when we use go career

is the fact that you know our guys typically we publish the work order and it's accepted weeks uh at least days

ahead of time and gives them a chance to check up you know look at the drawings

look at the documents any installation instructions we've put on there and

really uh let you you know they reach out to us and ask us those questions and

that that's ideal is to get all those questions answered ahead of time uh you

know make sure that everybody's comfortable with the project scope another key uh key thing is knowledge

knowing that you know I know that when we talk about managing resources and time but knowledge of how construction

works and knowledge about hey they get in there and they notice you know

different trades in the way or what have you um that can be a real pain in the old

rear end for both the installation crew as well as the company that's uh the

flooring company and sometimes obviously the installation crew is the flooring company um but neither Direction like

having that knowledge of what um sequence of construction should be you

know what I mean you go in you got lights but you don't have any HVAC on if

you don't have floor Cloud on your job and you don't know that well the installer had better know that and

report that back to you so that you know they're not installing outside sight conditions what's up hor hey thanks for

joining brother yeah and then you know some of the um the knowledge of the

process in construction period um you know that the experience it comes over with time um but then you can also get

some literature together and you you can kind of set expectations when you're discussing a

project you can ask some of those questions to be proactive or or listed in um your proposal your quote however

your relationship is with with whomever you work with um you know like we as

when we were labor only we still had our own set of terms um that we submitted with with a labor numbers and in those

set of terms depending on what we were installing had specific it they weren't requests right we weren't being

demanding either we were you almost have to be in some cases though they were

they were necessary it it was they were necessary items so I don't want to say they were requests that you know and we

weren't being pushy but they were definitely necessary um for that project or for

that specific material in order for it to uh perform properly and for us to install it

properly yeah yeah another another uh key key point to that i' I made in

the past when I was installing I was pretty eff I was fast but I wasn't fast

because I could spread glue faster than the other guy or because I could cut in faster because I knew how to you know

pattern scribe faster you know what I mean it was because I set the job up in

a way that allowed me to go from step to step to step in a very efficient manner

and you know know you you are the one in control of that as the guy on site you're you know you're setting up things

talking to other trades is another key Point having a good relationship if

anybody's on here that uh does commercial projects I mean residential

as well especially new builds but commercial it's it's imperative that you

get to know the other trades uh if you work in the same kind of municipality all the time you kind of get to know the

guys anyway because you're always on job sites with them but um getting to know the other trades and being able to work

with them a little bit because the gc's these days expect I think they

expect more of that than they ever have you know there they want you to kind of

coordinate with the other trades um and it's super effective for you to get what

you need to be a highly efficient and thus profitable uh installer

and you know the generals uh are also trying to keep certain groups together

um once they find a group of people that communicate well with one another work well with one another and they you know

like you said those relationships are created yeah that creates a Synergy on the job site you know if you're working

with you know the same drywalling company the same electricians the the same

HVAC uh like you get used to working with with guys you know what to expect

out of their crew you know that you know you know that GC knows you know how to communicate together and they're more

likely to to to use you even if you're not the low guy they make more hands off

hands off approach yeah and um well just like you said earlier your your customer

of you make their life easier if you make can make your client's life easier

you're going to be uh you're going to be successful no matter what level of this flooring whether you're uh you provide

and sell flooring and and installation or if you're just a flooring uh

installer or you're just a cells of materials I mean either way no matter

where you're at in the the uh sequence of that of that uh process the fact is

is if you make your client's life more uh you know just simpler um it's I mean

we've lost jobs because I've had managers in the past where I'd get a call from GC and he's like hey man I

like you but your manager is making my life hell he just he makes every everything's an

argument you know that guy's no longer with us that's that's the

truth and I think everybody goes through that depending on personality everybody goes through that that stage right where

you know as a floor guy you need the floor to do the floor and everybody always seems to want to be in the area that you're working when you're trying

to be the most duct that you could be well we take up a bunch of space yeah we

do we do we we we um we we command real estate on the project and um

unfortunately it's the way it has to be for us to get certain things done but

there is certain materials we can work with where we can part it out without putting us in a bad spot but at the same

time that shouldn't be the expectation um you know and I think the frustration kicks in

uh and I know it has kicked in with me when it's a repetitive question hey can you only do this much today can you only

do this much today right like I can do a th000 square feet the same amount of time it takes me to do 700 square feet

except for the reward is a lot different like I'm I I I want to make more you

know every day I'm I'm well and you want to make their job get done you know you

want to get project completed too so it's not just about you you you I mean it's it's a benefit to everybody

involved if you can get in and get the project done the faster you can turn it over the better faster we can get paid

and then we can get that money and then once you like working with other trades

majority like a lot I was on a project yesterday where

the electrician just called me and he's like hey where are you guys going to be at so that way you know my guy I know

where my I can put my guys and it's like that's the kind of relationships you have to build like long term so that way

you just skip the middleman and just communicate with each other yeah and

that's that's honestly that's that's um you know communication we talk about a

lot on the Huddle is how important communication is and building the relationship is part of communicating

you know what I mean like you got to take step one first and that's communica and then you can build that relationship

with each other now you're on another level when you can look across the room at somebody

else and just do a couple nods sh shrug your shoulders and you guys are on the same page and you both give each other

the thumbs up and just go to work like yeah that's the that's the kind of work relationship I want to have that those

are those are good ones that's when the beauty happens when the magic happens you know I think uh another part of

managing your resources you can't you know we just got to the money and that's the next part is managing that part

um managing your money and resources and one of the other things I would say

about a lot of the good Subs is they invest in themselves not just in training and education which we talk

about a lot but also in their equipment and their their tools and their vehicle

and vehicles sometimes uh you know some of our subs are a little bit bigger and

they have several vehicles that are all wrapped in their name and you know they're they're uh they look very

professional and they they invest or manage that

resource maybe your number one resource at the end of a job is the money you make and managing that um it can be

tricky we know I know for a fact through experience that it's one of the uh

toughest things to do is manage that resource uh but reinvesting back into yourself back into your company back

into your employees back into your equipment and uh making yourself that much more um valuable but also efficient

yeah efficient that so that that's what it is right like and some some of the things that you mentioned too are are

are purchases that when you're not generating the revenue that you'd like to generate in order to invest in some

of that that you can't see the benefit uh but this I'll just give a flat out scenario real life scenario and how we

got to a point where we're just like we're just gonna buy brand new vehicles if we were buying used vehicles dumping

money into them the amount of money that we were putting into our vehicles to maintain them on a monthly basis on

average we could have probably bought a couple brand new vehicles at the end of a year or two years if you look at it

and it was just like like you know but there's things that you got to build up to get to that

point um but the money and the resource part like you're right that that is that

is kind of that dance that you have to find you gotta you got to find your sweet spot on pricing you got to find

your sweet spot on production on efficiency you got to find all these sweet spots for for it to to look really

good at the end of a quarter um or be acceptable at the end of a quarter I mean so some quarters don't look really

good but then the next quarter is when that overflow comes in and like oh there it is there it is I thought I lost you

but no you're there you're there I see you yeah and understanding some of that

too well a lot of people think just just charging more charging what you're worth

well first off you have to really know what you're worth and that's that can be

subjective but efficiency is a Sure Fire weight

quality like understanding being educated in the flooring that you're doing and then being efficient at that

at that product uh or those products that series of products uh that is where

from an installer standpoint when I installed on a daily basis that's where I made the most money was understanding

the the processes the the sequences on the job site as

well as knowing what I'm do I was doing you know um I didn't always know what I

was doing and and so I had a good comparison um you know for for a

while it wasn't as profitable I mean the bottom line is you buy a new piece of equipment that makes you uh that you

know how to use well that increases your efficiency increases your profit you can get a job that would have taken you two

days to do you can get it done in a day and demo machines are a good example of

that they're they're a lifesaver you know we got yeah we got a big tile demo

coming up and I'll tell you what like it would have taken days on days on days to

remove 3,000 feet of tile uh you know we're g to probably get that done in a

day and a half and it would took in a week or more who knew who knows you know and how many other pieces of equipment

and uh that we would have needed on jobsite now we'll just have one chip and Hammer and

demo the main demo machine and you know some shovels and wheelbarrows and knock

it out of the park yeah the the demo machines are work wores that um until you get one and you utilize it

you don't really understand what you've been missing as far as getting your time back on a project um unless you unless

you find someone with one and you hire it out and you do understand uh it's one of those Investments that are hard to

pull the trigger at first but once you do you're like I'm so dumb I should have did

this just look at the YMCA the YMCA project we're on right now like if we

didn't have the ride on machines like all of our guys probably would have quit on

us right here that that's a great example there

because yeah what I mean that's a good point to bring up as well is like the the wear and tear that you save on uh

other people's you know on your employees bodies or your own body from from uh using equipment do you guys have

an automatic welder yes sir H how is that for you

guys uh on some of the projects that we have that have a lot of scen that works

out great but majority of the time long run obviously well even like um doing Nora

right because it's only four foot and if you got one room with like

15 seams in it it it's already worth it yeah yeah and then and then the length of the

seene right like trying to stay cons like say you only have two seams but they're 120 foot you know and then you

have five cross seams for five head seams to do right the head seams are fine but you go do them long seams 100

and something 100 plus feet I could tell you what like staying consistent through

that whole thing and the same pitch the same speed all by hand is it impossible

no after that one seam I tell you you're taking a break you're doing all of this and then you're gonna go and and do a

pass and like oh gotta retouch that gotta retouch that that's why I brought it up is um a a lot of the crews that do

our Terror Flex in our in like our athletic you know multi-purpose rooms and stuff they use automatic welders

because not not necessarily is it that much faster really

um the the but you save you just save your body that at the end of the day an

eight hour day of welding um man the consistency and the the the wear and

tear on the guy is is night and day yeah I I um so you talking about uh Teraflex

right in all the sports floor they have that that super high Sheen finish or the finish that will it's very finicky it's

gonna burn if you're just tilted the wrong way yeah the consistency you can create with

the right robot you put it it's not a set it and forget it like we make jokes about just

turn it on turn the light off walk away come back right like with self lover and the robots it just doeses it itself I

just set it in the room I come back and everything's welding make jokes like that

but just the it just looks perfect when you're

done like if you do everything right and you're prepping and taking that time and you invest in the right the right

accessories to go with that tool man it's just you don't have to go back I love it

yeah yeah it's it's uh it's a real game changer when you find those those little

pieces of tools and going the opposite direction from a from a um uh automatic welder we bought I in

fact I bought four of them the small welders 90 degree oh my goodness when

you're doing a ton of Cove seams oh yeah inside outside corners those just having

the smaller welder in your hand it's amazing the difference that it

makes and it just it's a smaller tool and it actually welds a little slower but it's so much more um

favorable to yeah to doing it you don't have to rush yourself out yeah this one

right did you get the turbo tools yeah this one right here was a gift from

Ray it's a butane it's a butane

welder I don't know how efficient it is the idea is cool but just to have one that's this small um and and portable

say I don't have no power say something happen I got a little repair to do yeah

I'm still calling D to do it or you do have power but the dog on closest Outlets 100 foot away and you ain't got

a 100 foot cord yeah yeah all those types of things so

uh you know we got tools education and knowhow

you know tools and equipment rein employees we talked about you know uh

managing their time and resources because they're going to go where you tell them to go and how you know kind of

Follow Your guidelines so what other resources because you know we talked

about money and I think that's the at the end of the day we're all doing this to make an income to make a living and

at the end of the day when you have that resource spending it

wisely um you know I'm no tax accountant I don't want to act like I'm a business

coach or anything like that but I'll tell you taking care of your taxes as a

installer and taking care of your employees making sure that everybody's paid and that your your taxes are

covered those are very important things that um anybody on here watching you

know don't skip that over a lot of installers I I know many many good

installers have gotten caught up on that not manag tell you I wasn't guilty of that back in the day I'd be lying right

so that I think I think that's a matter of uh approaching approaching uh some your finances with responsibility right

like understand what should be priority or what is priority

because even though you put it at something like that on the back burner and it seems okay right in the long

run because remember the government can go back a lot further than you can so

you don't want to put yourself in a situation where you owe uh bad cxes and

then penalties and then late fees and then interests right yeah it's all

gonna it's all gonna build up so take take care of that resource lastly and

this this you know the the we we hit on so much of this stuff that uh it's why

this is a very icient podcast um but the your time so one of the things that I

got into uh doing was Chad Holmes International which was a business coach

I followed in when I first got into business but he talked really heavily

about having a you know a to-do list but it was it was called a D6 and I still do

it today and it's I I write down I have a master list and write down the six

most important things I need to do that day you know at the office and that's what keeps me reminded what I need to be

doing next because whether you're out in the field or you know it could your D6 might look

a little bit different but just realizing the most important things and don't forget family and all

that and yeah you're right so I didn't take any classes like that and but I do

have lists upon lists and I do have big lists that filter down through smaller

lists to help help me manage my task at a glance now I might not be as good as

you or Daniel at taking care of that and knocking that out because I do get distracted rather easily right like soon

as I get a phone call about an issue or a phone call about something you know I I I do tend to get a little sidetracked

with that um and try to fit some of that information in before I lose it lose it

um but fortunately for for for me I have my computer so we have uh a teams that we

use Microsoft teams and then I just got good oldfashioned you know little notepads um for my daily tests and

reminders and items like it's one of the things install-wise that I didn't do

very often or very well but just remembering uh hey I've got to touch up

this or touch up that once I you kind of start doing that then you don't forget these things and when you're in that

part of the school you know for example and you got some base that you need to

finish up or some you know it's just these things that you forget about on job sites and and of course I'm very

skewed commercially because as you can tell in the background we're a commercial flooring company um but it it

works no matter what you're doing you know remembering that you know there's been several times I'm sure you guys

have experienced this on job sites where the mill work or the the the case work was not in yet everything else is done

in the room all the Bas base it and you gotta go back and base the casework well

remembering to do that when you're on that wing of that job and being efficient with that just comes from

managing your time well and uh you know those it's those types of things that I

appreciate about really good installers good Subs that we have and it's also what I wish I would have been better at

when I was installing and uh you know to when when I was installing full-time before

preferred flooring um I did make it a habit of I carried a journal like you know those old journals um the the

composition notebooks I carried those around all the time and like I wrote

down what I did every day I was never asked to do that I did it for me for my

record so that way I could learn um so I could learn my my I wanted to

know where I where I was not efficient at is what it was and I wanted to compare you know my February to my to my

um November if I'm working with the same material out to see if I were if I was

progressing if I was getting better um so that's why I did that umal Walter makes a comment here about

quality control including punch list and that's that's what I'm talking about like it's and sometimes it's not real

punch list items it's like the example I gave earlier is not really a punch list

I didn't it's not a faulty install it's just something you got to get back and do but yeah writing those things down

you know tile guys uh one of our tile guys that is really good like he'll when

he writes up his own punch list he's he he's in effect reminding himself hey when I when I go to mix another uh

especially with epoxy grout when I go to mix another uh uh unit of epoxy grat a

couple I got a couple of voids over in this room over here and he he knows that you know what I mean it it's not like

you leave the job and that becomes a a punch list item he just takes care of it because he

remembers uh to write it down and to follow up and do that and it's like that's that's that

is when you start talking about being efficient on

I'm just getting to the shop we heard Chuck so we just wanted to hear what he had to say we thought he

oh we're trying to ease drop yeah yeah

um you're right about that that that's one of those uh that's one of those things where if some people just have it

like that they just understand they know their limitations and they understand that they need to write it down as a

reminder and then it becomes habit and once becomes well just as better free up that free up that head space to to work

on being doing what you're doing and and and you just go back and it's written

down and you can go back and and this goes epoxy grout was the example I gave

earlier but it doesn't matter you could have a a seam that needs um you know

reworked on a on on um a heat weld or something like that and it's best to do

that when you're heat welding and so you know all these types of things they there sequences to it and it's just

about managing your time effectively so you know you gota you'll end up being a

master at it if you worked at it so that's what I would you know implore

everybody to do you know work on your time management it gets a lot easier and you

know me me being the person I am uh you know my my my kids are 11 eight and

seven they have notebooks do they use them yet no but they have them there and I tell them hey write down what you did

every day when you remember write down what you did today write down what you learned you know I'm not asking you to

keep a journal of your life and your feelings write down hey today I went to school I did I did math uh you know I

broke my shoelace you know what I calculus right just just write down what you did because I wanted for them I

wanted to be second nature to have a notebook and understand the importance of note taking yeah

well that's all I got for you guys today what you guys got anything else to uh any words of wisdom as we close this uh

episode of the huddle out words of wisdom um you know what I don't really have any

words of wisdom but I will say where I fall short on would be time management so if you guys can find a way or if you

guys know ways of time management that is useful and kind of universal for everybody that D6 that Paul was talking

about right he me that could yeah we can hear you uh that would would help out

and I I did I wrote that I wrote that down and I I written that down like three or four times already when fall

said it I think it's just a matter of uh put it on the the other

notebook yeah I have a master I I have a master list of things that everything

from looking at a budget for the company to to buying a

new piece of equipment to a a bid that has to be done I mean it's

all kinds of things that are on that Master list and I just transfer them I look at that and I say what's most

important today and that's what I try to try to put you know for that day and

it's not always perfect but it's covered with microphone stuff right now but

these are my lists that I work off of there's my master that I use it's nothing fancy right but then I also have

a duplicate of that on the computer I like what Justin says here he says think ahead until you're convin till you

convince yourself that you're predicting the future and and Walter says you

know Walter says uh you know job notes that you were talking about taking was

critical if there's a failure or a problem so all that stuff you wrote down you know that's another good point and

take pictures of everything yeah yeah yeah you're ahead SCH do not take a

break or a long lunch stay ahead what are breaks people take breaks still what

does that mean that thing it's that thing that your body does when you work too [Laughter]

much all right guys well um I appreciate you guys uh thank you to everybody

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us a give us a little love and we will uh replying to Nate I usually eat every

other day to save time what that's called

fasting so no it's like I already ate yesterday why do I need to eat today it's ridiculous

yeah that's um all right

fellas we'll catch you guys next week and uh hope you guys have a great

evening and we'll we'll talk to you later see you all right bye