The Huddle - Episode 18 - Taking Care of your Tools
This week on The Huddle Paul, Daniel and Jose discuss taking care of all of your tools, the most important one being your body.
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The HUDDLE is where the flooring industry can get together and talk about everything! Lead by Paul Stuart from Go Carerra who is joined by Daniel and Jose Gonzalez from Preferred Flooring.
all right well we'll kick this thing off
welcome everybody
to this week's huddle where we come to
you every single Tuesday with the
exception of two or maybe three over the
last uh almost every single Tuesday
um
and we like to discuss how to maintain
forward progress in your flooring career
so
whether that's growing your business in
different areas uh we talk a very wide
variety of topics in today's topic is uh
maintaining your tools
and that really starts uh with your body
being the uh number one tool that you
use in flooring and I know I got two
gentlemen with me today as always is
Daniel and Jose
and um they know a bit about uh
installing and and how to keep your body
from falling apart but I did think we
figured you know we could start with a
little bit of
um you know actual tools
um one of my pet peeves as an installer
uh in the old days and for sure when I
was out in the field every day
dirty patch trials or or somebody
leaving patch their trial and just
letting it dry or glue on a trowel and
letting it dry or whatever
um
pet peeve I'm just letting you know I
share the same one I know that trials
are not uh Ultra expensive but why spend
money where you don't need to by
breaking them when you try to scrape off
a half inch of floor patch or thin set
or whatever off of a trawl uh this seems
real low-key here but
it is my pet peeve but it's not about it
being expensive right it's about going
and grabbing it and getting ready to use
it and it's no longer
in the condition you need it to do a
good job and you don't have no notice
that that's that's where the pet peeve
comes in for me
well that and and uh like maintain you
know we all have much uh more expensive
tools or equipment that we need to
maintain uh I bring up the trial because
a mentor of mine at my let's says
how you do one thing's how you do
everything in a given you know vertical
so how you take care of your trial is a
pretty good indicator of what your van
looks like
almost guarantee you
you go up and you see a patch trial
that's just been Caked Up
time after time and it looks like crap
just go to their van I don't or their
their their truck I'd almost guarantee
you it's a mess uh same with if it's a
tile company or a tile installer and
their trials are you know caked full of
thin set or they're grout floats have
old grout on them and they're going to
try to scrape them clean when they need
them I I don't understand that like
thought process it's so much easier to
clean it when it's wet but
I've I've seen it a hundred times if
I've seen it won and
the point here that on actual tools and
equipment before we get to your your
physical health
um
the real the real fact is if you don't
take care of the trials your your saws
probably uh you know a mess you're you
probably have a dull wheel on your you
know your breaker board
um it's just all the you got to take
care of what takes care of you all right
we've hit on this before we've not done
an episode on it but we have hit on this
before uh in some previous episodes but
so anyway that's one of my pet peeves
what do you guys see out in the field
that really I mean Jose kind of chimed
in he shares that but what do you see on
here uh with uh different performing
Crews that like drive you nuts from a
maintaining your I mean these are your
assets that's another thing in your work
area
the work area right like
man just
there's no reason to throw scraps
everywhere and then have to clean it up
it's just as simple to keep it in the
pile and then pick up one pile at the
end of that room or the end of the day
or the end of the job
um and they have member that's always
been a pet peeve of mine
um Daniel knows it has been uh but that
along with the tools of course and uh
you you hit it right on the noses
clean trials usually equals clean
organized man and try to
everybody hated me for a long time
because at the end of the day I'd say
we're ready to go and I'd go outside the
band would be in shambles like everybody
just throw things in there I'm like ah
all the tools back out what it's 5 30.
it's six o'clock you know I I don't care
dude like if I don't know where they're
at then I don't want that in there like
that because I'm gonna have to clean it
all the tools back out it's going to
take 10 minutes for all of us or it's
going to take two hours of myself
that's the thing it's saving time the
next day just thinking about that trial
like the patching trials someone leaves
that patch on there and then you gotta
grab a four inch scraper and start
scraping that off and then you're
already looking at you know 15 20
minutes of just trying to get a tool
ready that should have been ready
right away
yeah yeah
and it kind of comes down to uh
Eduardo chimed in here and said howdy
guys and how it says this is true I I uh
I think I I share your
there's sediment there it's certainly
true and you know how you take care of
your body
um
I know this is a you know we're based in
flooring but the fact is is taking care
of yourself in any skilled trades
important I know this has come up like
uh
probably hit you know been more of a
topic uh in the recent years we kind of
talked about how uh the females in the
uh trade that we know
seem to do a better job of doing of
taking care of themselves than we do
whether in gloves or you know good knee
pads really caring but there's also
like the fact that you get up and down
in your joints and your knees and how
long do you expect
yeah hips how long do you expect a tool
to last well
you're you're one of the tools at your
disposal you're one of the major assets
so
um about five years ago uh
I when I was installing I was I was in
good shape
and then as I got into the office uh I
ballooned up to about 205 pounds and uh
so this last five years has been a
journey for me in taking care of my body
taking care of my health I'm 46 and
trying to you know
live as close to
you know 100
way to say that you ballooned up to a
weight that is still less than me thanks
well I I don't know did I show you guys
that picture of me yeah you did you did
not have fat pictures yeah
I mean you're looking at my fat picture
right now so
so the point is uh
like I'm not talking about weight loss
or whatever but I do have a lot of
experience in it now uh I've maintained
the weight loss for the last five years
uh I know these gentlemen have
uh dropped some weight over the years as
well and
like I I don't want to sound like I'm
preaching here but it it certainly is
important for you to take care of your
your body as best as possible being at a
weight that you feel comfortable with
that doesn't mean you have to be skinny
or super fit or whatever just a weight
that you feel comfortable working here
that's a good a good way to put it and
um you know
my 255 pound ass out there working my
knees are killing me a hell of a lot
more than they do when uh you know when
I decide to get out there now
um that extra weight you know you got to
just be at a comfortable weight
my doctor's terms I'm overweight like by
10 or 15 pounds I feel great at the
weight I'm at
um
but all that being said like proper
hydration making sure that you're
hydrated uh this isn't a fitness class
but it's certainly important to
understand that how you treat your body
how you treat your all your tools
everything that it takes for you to get
a job done is important
um so
we in fluorine are up down up down up
down all day long
um unless you're doing well twerking and
stretching and
some very odd positions to to get some
cutting done and then if you do the
flash cove you're always laying on your
belly yeah
yeah learn how to do things left-handed
I mean there's a lot of
a lot of Mind and Body coordination
that's got to go into a lot of what we
do as well
yeah so I mean it the the truth is you
know we don't do as much carpet in our
industry like real good broad Loom
carpet in the commercial world uh as as
back when I was installing but even
proper lifting of things that was a huge
deal I never got injured from lifting
carpet and I did it for years and years
and years and it was just lifting it
properly so remember to take care of
yourself don't get in such a doggone
hurry on a job that you're just yanking
stuff from one spot to the next and
injure yourself and what happens when
you injure yourself is you lose money
especially if you're a subcontractor uh
you're going to lose money you don't
unless you have workman's comp on
yourself
um
you're gonna lose some money you're
going to be sitting even if you do have
workman's comp you're going to go to
they'll cover your medical expensive I'm
going to cover your time off necessarily
uh being self-employed
um so
yeah I want to add to that too is um and
an injury isn't always noticeable right
away I will let you guys know that like
is something if you're doing something
the wrong way for an extended period of
time the injury might not be a torn
muscle or or you might not walk away say
oh I'm hurt right now but over the
course of five years ten years
um you could sustain some long-term
injuries by just not thinking things
through an improper technique yes that
creeps up on you all of a sudden
you're back whatever your knees so I
mean
take it with uh you know
take this how you
um and apply it to your life to your
career as you will but properly taking
care of yourself and thinking about your
next uh move when you're doing flooring
is important
um these guys get out there I've seen
guys going you know they're just getting
after it and I'll tell you a story we
have
um we had a guy on our cruise that he
was 34 and
awesome
CFI certified guy I think he got all the
uh was C2 certification uh had some
other trainings very very good installer
cared about his work but he went at
everything like he's killing snakes and
a couple years ago it's been about three
or four years ago him and his brother
were a team they were one of our subs
and they both quit and they went to
start driving trucks
making way less money but uh they were
doing
delivery truck driving paid by the hour
and
um one of them came back because of the
money the other one has made his life
work for the last three like I said
three or four years and he was a
wonderful installer we lost and the only
reason was because he just said my
body's breaking down he was 35.
my body's breaking down I can't keep
doing this forever
so that brings up a few things that
is probably past
um
is it real echoey when I talk
no okay uh
it brings up a few things
um you know first off
obviously like I said taking care of
yourself
not going at things so so crazily
um
and realizing that you've got a long
career ahead of you
but how many of these guys
that that
when we are talking about shortage and
labor you know having a
um
the next step after installation we've
talked about that in some podcasts and
there's opportunities out there whether
it's you know be an assessor with go
Carrera or a
you know a mill rep or a tech rep or
whatever there are some verticals
um we we aim to continue to improve that
but uh that's one thing the industry's
talked about a bit you know the life
expectancy of a flooring contractor I
say life expectancy you're in 10 years
and you die so it seems like it
sometimes I'm at the career expectancy
like how long are can you can you do
this right
um hey Eduardo said the belly is uh is
your third pad
uh
that's kind of funny
um
anyway doing some
some things to uh maintain your career
but then building your mind a lot we've
done a lot of uh podcasts huddles on how
to improve your skills and those kinds
of things that will allow you to move to
that next step in the future
um and maybe take a tech rep job or take
an assessor uh position any of that kind
of thing uh you got to build your mind
but also you got to take care of your
body I know a lot of old installers that
just didn't do it and they're paying for
it now I was on that path I didn't wear
knee pads and take care of myself
luckily I was not in uh you know every
day on my knees
for 30 years I got it I got up and and
uh started my company uh fairly early in
my career and was able to get off my
knees and probably you know 10 to 15
years or whatever it was but point is
take care of yourself guys gals uh in
fact guys talk to the gals because
they'll tell you how to do it uh but you
know maintaining maintaining
um
your your career really and keeping it
going forward like the Huddle says you
know forward progress is you gotta have
a body that's gonna stick with you
through this so I know balance for sure
what's that
so you got to find balance for sure you
know you can't have one without the
other
yep
and I know this is going to fall on a
bunch of deaf ears but uh because I'm no
fitness trainer or anything but I can
just tell you from experience I've
watched a lot of guys go down and uh I
just gave you an example of a guy that
was 35 and quit our industry we want to
talk about Labor shortage part of the
problem is you know some of these guys
by go at it so hard that by you know
year 10 they're ready to get off their
knees and get into something else
because their body's breaking down so
what are some what's your guys's
thoughts I'm not a personal trainer I
just thought we'd have an open
discussion about this yeah
um
because if we're talking labor shortage
and you got 35 year olds quitting
because their body's not keeping up what
do we do
number one thing for me man is I don't
care who you work with or who you work
under or what kind of competition they
make go invest in some knee pads right
away
right away man like
I didn't wear knee pads for I don't know
the first five six years of my career
and I'd like to get those five or six
years back to be honest with you because
there's a lot of moving Parts down there
man you
I was like I was a lot bigger when I
started a lot bigger in those five or
six years that's a lot of weight a lot
of movement on those knees and my shins
and my ankles and my back for improper
support
um you know it's a domino effect I would
say an epad would be my number one thing
you guys wear back braces I know a
couple guys as they install
it is a hit or miss on me and sometimes
yes sometimes no would you say Daniel
yeah sometimes I wear a back brace
it just depends on how messed up I am at
that moment yeah there's more uh where
where when you when you feel you need it
instead of trying to prevent right but
if you're down down doing BCT or you
know you're going to be down for you
know an hour and a half at a time I can
see a back break being very helpful
uh for that time and moving it yeah he's
63 and a half pounds a box moving that
crap around can uh catch up to you
pretty quick too
yes
so Rollin says that uh
he can do
let me see him find it
when you're 134 you can do what you want
he he
is uh maybe
the oldest man alive
still doing flooring he rocks by the way
you do a great rolling for for all the
years you've been installing brother you
ought to tell us what you what you've
done right and then uh Jorge says that
you know using power stretchers it's
where it's at let the tools do the work
for you and that's 100 damn it I wish I
would have thought of that that's
brought that point up that that may be
the most important point and Jeremy says
that playing softball helps keep you in
shape but
I think uh a lot of it has to do with
your diet because I I've seen him gain a
little bit of poundage over the years
maybe it's the bear in the softball
tournaments
I don't drinks much he doesn't he
doesn't drink okay well he just doesn't
eat vegetables
I I got a comment says health and
discipline go hand in hand with Career
Success
yes
I would agree so with what I'm thinking
is
um like Jose said that you know coming
in and not using knee pads and that that
really messed mess messed me up but
what I really didn't pay attention to
was the hips and just like uh walking on
Old adhesive and stuff my hips used to
kind of pop out all the time
and now
um I just had the weight loss surgery
like a year and a half ago and the
reason I got it was because during covid
one of my hips just went out on me while
we were on a job site like I went to go
stand up and I just went right back down
and I I couldn't do anything
so what was that what what do you think
that like
particular like what were you installing
what what was it the glue adhesive
walking on that for expense I think that
has a lot to do with it because I
remember coming up and then always
walking on that adhesive and taking
those steps and I would feel my hips
stretching but not only that it's when
you're installing you know you're
constantly have your legs out on an
angle and you're not really sure you
figure your posture and everything
you're just trying to get in the best
position to install
so what's the worst flooring to install
from uh
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from this with this perspective about
you know your body wear and tear my
opinion my opinion is VCT
because it's such small and compact you
don't think about it because of the size
and but you'll grab a box and you'll
rotate it you'll put a box here there
you'll reach you'll leave lean backwards
as far as you can Ben grab you know a
half a box with one hand and slide it
forward
um I think that I think VCT is probably
one of the ones that
got me the best of me over the course of
my installation career
um
only because of how much we did probably
that probably has a lot to do with it
too I did we did a lot of bzt when I
started it
um you just don't think about it uh
because it is so small and compact but
when you're working with a roll of
carpet or sheet buying them you're
you're like I gotta lift it here I got a
pivot here I'm gonna need help with that
now the damn carpet can be heavy and you
gotta get lights of stairs sometimes
can't fit it in elevators
uh you know you got a 60-foot drop on
the second floor it's not going in an
elevator at least not your normal size
elevator so I think that's that from I
would say carpet uh at water it says uh
says ceramic
oh yeah I I don't know
um ceramic to me has always been like
the oldest installers I know are in
ceramic tile
like the older guy I'm talking 60s and
70s
I had a I had a guy that worked for me
uh he retired when he was 72 and he came
back when he was 74 and worked till he
was 80. installing ceramic tile and
passed away he retired about 81 or
whatever and he worked for other uh
flooring contractors uh
flooring companies as well but
um his nickname was cowboy and he was a
hell of an installer but he he went on
forever dude it wasn't until he retired
that he ended up passing away about
three or four years later but uh of
course he was 83 at that point but he
couldn't he couldn't quit moving he was
one of those you know Sparky guys that
just could not sit still so tried
retirement on for a day or two and then
went back at it but
um resilient I mean all of it's hard on
your body don't get me wrong and Jeremy
says that he thinks that the the rolled
rubber flooring the the thicker stuff
three quarter inch oh yeah that's that's
what gets it for him and then the
adhesive that comes with it because you
gotta if you're not using two hands to
spread it you're not spreading it right
that is a good point that damn urethane
adhesive when you're doing a rubber
floor
man Dirk says that carpet was always
hardest on him and I kind of agree with
that especially
in the early part of my career because I
didn't know what a crab stretcher was
for a long time
it was the grab the kickers and
start kicking like kick this seam
together the glue's already set up and
this still gotta go so
so starting to sound like just every bit
of flooring gifts depends on what day
and what month it is right
yeah so they all have their they all had
their tough Parts I I do got to say I
remember doing a gym floor and you want
to talk about a sore elbow after
spreading that freaking urethane
adhesive for
all day long and then on top of that
everything's heavy
bulky that's a good point as well
what did uh what did
um the guy say about car oh the crab
stretcher that's a dang good
um comment as well I didn't have a crap
I didn't even know crab stretchers
existed for probably five years after
installing it was horrible
I could probably still I could probably
still break a cinder block with my knee
but I would prefer not to kick anything
with that thing anymore it probably
wouldn't walk for a few weeks after that
two knee braces
Robin says to keep in shape he still
plays Sports
but what he thinks is uh kept him going
for the 150 years so far is he's gonna
learn how to lift
and balance a load and he stretches uh
before he he starts working
there you go that's a good that's a good
points Roland's been around for a long
time
if if he says to stretch before you get
going that's probably a good idea he
also brought up like all the balancing
and all that and he hit on that
um as well Daniel is use equipment you
got for carpet you got carpet dollies uh
if you don't have a carpet dolly put a
piece of wood block of wood over your
two-wheel dolly lay it down and it will
work as a carpet dolly If the roll is
not too big you don't even need the
woods sometimes just put the carpet on
there and it sometimes it's still
working yeah as long as you're not going
I always did the little wood just
because they wanted to increase the
carpet too bad when I was getting ready
to install but
uh point is you know use equipment to
move your stuff around use
um you know like I said they they have a
lot of this I know that one of the
best tools and cheap models cheap bottle
rollers I mean sorry oh man right this
whole thing is about taking care of
tools right and taking care of yourself
I just
um replace the rollers on our sheet
vinyl cart because we use this so much
that the bearings went out yeah and
I'm not gonna go old school and start
rolling it again I actually bought
another one and then replaced the the
stuff so that now we have two and then
he got another one for free from
somewhere so we got three and it's well
we've just kind of went full circle
right there on how taking care of your
tools can take care of your body yeah
keeping that stuff up to you know stuff
um and keeping your tools in good shape
and demo tools too I know the some of
the demo tools are expensive but you
know we were on a project a few months
ago and the guys had
um big you know
um hammer drills basically one inch
hammer drills with a a flat paddle on
the end taking up DCT
they beat their asses to death excuse my
French
for hours doing that they were wasted
after tearing up 3 000 feet now I know
that some of the tools that Danny sells
over at Wolf
uh can be expensive uh or even the
Nationals
um but investing in some of those uh
self-propelled demo machines demo we
didn't bring up demo
especially Lee's wet set oh beat my ass
several times still does we just we just
had some guys carrying some off of a
stage and I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry
to the preferred team my apologies but
uh a wood a wood stage by hand and one
inch strips and it uh one week man for
like 100 yards I mean it was it was
pretty bad
yeah you got like the trifecta you can't
even use a real good demo machine on a
wood stage
no we tried everything did you try the
carpet puller yep the
tried the carpet floor tried the the
turbo machine tried the we call it the
mini turbo I don't even know the real
name of it
the Duro Duro Duro Duro stripper we
tried that with the blades upside down
backwards sideways
I just know even when you do your best
you're going to end up doing something
that's why you got to stretch
I hope you guys stretch before that
stage because that sounds like a pain
I'm just saying like that demo if you
can you know in commercial we're
typically on concrete slabs most of the
time and I know there's a lot of
residential on the coasts and you know
different areas that's uh concrete slab
uh in in the midwest there's a lot of
wood substrate with basements and so
it's hard to to use a heavy machine or
even some of the demo machines that just
tear the wood apart
um but there's other like for tearing up
carpet glue down carpet you know that
right carpet puller the old cage puller
that thing you know we we've got two of
them one of them's been I mean I've
literally had it since like 90.
596 bought it from my boss that I worked
for at the time I guess I actually owned
it since 99 but uh I was using that same
machine in in 95 96 so they last a long
time
uh a lot of this equipment cost you a
few thousand bucks but if you take that
over lost time wear on your body and
long-term Health they're worth the
investment guys in my opinion yeah and
Jorge brought up uh furniture moving
that's hard on your body oh man they got
Furniture slides for that
Furniture slides of slings that go under
you know those types of people air sleds
holy smokes I remember the first time we
used those I would I think I went home
and moved my refrigerator just for fun
you know I've been wanting to clean
behind this thing let me use this
funny
yeah though so using equipment taking
care of the equipment takes care of your
main piece of equipment which is your
body and you you think like we have uh
one of our
the first ride on removal machine that
we bought we bought
over 10 years ago and it's just crazy to
think that it's been that long because
especially this guy over here he's like
man we just bought that we bought it
like 10 years ago
and it's it's still working I mean the
bad the they don't sell the original
charger for it anymore so it beeps all
the time which is super annoying but I
mean it's it's still doing its job it's
still running
yeah I just put new batteries in mine
about six months ago my national
yeah maintaining it not the cheapest
thing to do but the the big picture
dude there's it's an investment I would
have to had 30 guys
uh to take care of what that machine's
taking care of for me over the years
it's there's no comparison
to like 30 guys and how many man hours
it would have taken and that machine's
probably only got you know it's probably
got less than a thousand hours on it
yeah
yeah yeah so the the
get the right equipment maintain that
equipment take care of it and take care
of your body and if you do all that same
time you're actually
your equipment will take care of you as
well
working Gerardo saying that the chat
isn't working so I if he has a question
he can just type it on this uh q a right
oh yeah it looks like the chat Works uh
sorry Eduardo but if uh
oh yeah so Jocelyn says uh make sure
y'all eat food is the food food is the
fuel needed for the job that's a good uh
that's a good point don't forget to eat
take care and oops I'll throw in there
try to eat decent food if you can I know
when I was in out in the field all the
time I mean it's hard not to just go
grab the you know fast food joint down
the street but the the gas station hot
dog yeah the speed dog hot dog
uh we did have a guy that worked for me
for many many years that always every
single day had a peanut butter and jelly
sandwich and two bananas
that's what he had he had um himself a
little little deli sandwich an apple and
a banana and water that's oh yeah the
Tomato he's the one that taught me how
to not cut up the tomatoes and put it on
the sandwiches bring it and take bites
of it while you're eating your sandwich
so it doesn't get soggy and when I was
working with him that was man that was
about 15 years ago and he was already in
his late 70s and still healthier
physically than a lot of the young guys
that were early mid-20s uh not taking
care of themselves I learned a lot from
that guy
what was his name
Stan
Stan uh what was his last name Daniel
I'm drawing a blank on his last name I
should know it
Johnny knows if he's in there he left
already
eat good food not Casey's Pizza
eat good food not Casey's Pizza I think
that uh that's probably my favorite stop
uh someone says
eat rotisserie chicken and keep gaining
muscle
protein
all right well I know this was a little
um
you know maybe uh better suited for a
fitness podcast but the truth is that
you don't take care of yourself your
number one tool and you don't buy the
right equipment take care of your
equipment your number one tool is going
to let you down uh I've seen it happen
and I've experienced it with our crews
um so I'd encourage everybody to take
care of yourself
lift right use your equipment
work smart not hard uh you can do both
actually but work smart for sure and
um you know
try to keep your career going for for
many many years I I mean there's
examples of plenty of guys who make it
for years and they're usually the guys
that took care of themselves so easier
to work harder when you have the right
equipment because you're you're not
tearing yourself up doing everything
well I'm the freaking equipment it's
funner than pulling up carpet with you
in one inch strips hell of a lot better
to jump on a piece of equipment and you
use a a turbo or something like that
that's yeah and until it goes through a
wall well it's always collateral damage
better proper use of the equipment
proper use of the equipment proper use
all right guys you guys got anything in
closing on this uh little uh shorter of
a podcast
take care of your mental health as well
mental health has a lot to do with you
with your physical if you're not if
you're not correcting yourself mentally
or or consciously making an effort to to
to take care of yourself mentally then
the physical part isn't even going to
matter
um you're just not going to care at some
point I think sometimes they go hand in
hand like uh yeah I go see a therapist
through the bariatric place that I had
surgery at because you know
it is it's a it's a huge change and not
only that it's like they said you ever
need to talk to anyone about anything
definitely you know
give us a call and there was one point
where I was like yeah it's time to talk
to someone and it does a lot man it
really does all you got to do is
all it is is essentially event session
with someone that's not gonna say
anything or judge you and sometimes
that's all you need get past that stigma
yep yeah yeah
that's great advice guys I I I
tell you what
it's pretty easy to get down these this
you know when when the economy and you
got Wars and all this stuff and I don't
want to bring any negativity in uh to a
great degree but
taking care of your mind you know
compare yourself to your yourself
yesterday and not other people uh that's
a trick that one of my mentors taught me
is like you don't compare yourself to
other people you compare yourself to
your the version of you that was
yesterday and the version of you you
want to be and then you're just building
upon what you've done yesterday and you
can make those little one percent
changes and uh it makes a big difference
in your mindset makes a big difference
uh you know Daniel just told you man it
goes hand in hand taking care of your
mind and taking care of your body and a
good good strong mind usually equals
good strong body and not always but you
know they do correlate
um and then take care of your equipment
and by the way
Andy McWilliams started a group on
Facebook it's called Uh mind and body
for the flooring trade
so
what does it cost to jump on that mind
and body for the flooring trade
and that's on me that's what it's called
that's on Facebook group yep yeah it's a
group yeah
shoot that out we'll post this in our
social uh I would I'm interested in that
myself
yeah he's got some good some some good
motivation uh motivational posts on
there there's there's a good following
on there as well awesome
one of the best things that I've learned
on there is something that he posted
when he said it's none of my business
what other people think about me now I
live my life like that that is 100
the best advice ever I've heard that
same before it's hard to live by
sometimes it's like you know because we
do care about how we're perceived as
humans just the very nature but damn if
you could take that advice and take it
to heart
yeah that's a big Improvement right
there so awesome guys thanks again for
joining us this week I appreciate all
the comments and the Q and A's I didn't
get to every one of them I apologize
um but we do appreciate the uh
interaction and the uh you know
participation so we'll see you guys next
week and uh until then guys have a great
week all right stay safe
all right see you guys see ya
thank you